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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If you also believe that boys being bullied is serious, but girls being bullied is trivial, then I disagree with you just as much as I disagree with him, and for the same reasons.
    Did you read the rest of the reply? I think it explained my position fairly well I thought. Bullying is an opportunity to earn respect and should be looked on as such.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I agree with him actually. I was bullied myself fairly harshly. I am not pretty, in fact I hit more then a few branches of the ugly tree on the way down, and I was portly. Easy pickens for awhile until I earned my bones so to speak. If a girl is being bullied there are two options. Sit there and take it, or dish it back out. If she sits there and takes it, that makes her easy meat. Sorry but children are cruel little beasts and will be utterly heartless. Bullying is OPORTUNITY to prove oneself and EARN respect. Mommy and daddy coming to rescue just exacerbates the problem. If I was giving advise to a young girl, I would tell her to roll with the punches and learn to dish it back out. A good one liner every once in awhile will eventually shut down even the cruelest bitch. It will take time but eventually she will EARN respect and that more than anything else will build their self-esteem.
    I guess I can relate to some degree. I never really got picked on, but just before I went into high school, there was an advanced placement class that I went to during the summer, at the same time as summer school. During breaks, there really wasn't anything to do so everyone kind of hung out in the weight room area. There was this big guy named Mike who was on the football team (kind of explains his being in summer school) and he and his football buddies liked to go around and beat up on people. Eventually, it was my turn and he took a shot at me in the weight room where there wasn't any room to fight and his longer reach meant he could keep hitting me without any chance that I could hit back. I backed out of the room and as soon as I had a chance, I put him on the floor. I guess it helped that I was into martial arts at the time. I didn't hurt him, although I could have, it was just a "you are going to stop doing that right now or else" kind of thing. Unfortunately, one of the teachers saw me do it and sent us both out to run laps and while we were out there, we talked and got to be really good friends. In fact, I ended up tutoring the guy in math to keep him on the football team. He was never a dick to me again because I put him in his place and he knew I could do it again.

    That whole incident today would end up with someone breaking down in tears, whining on Facebook and probably require counseling. Kids today are wimps.
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    Re: Bullying...

    It really depends on the kind of bullying. If some pale-face is getting cornered in the bathroom by 3 jocks that are about to beat the snot out of him, that needs to be addressed. If it's someone getting a tongue-lashing here and there, let it go. If it's not physical, there really needs to be some over-the-top type of harassment that interferes with that kid living his or her life.

    I think there are too many people here watching Pearl Jam's video for Jeremy and jumping to panic stage.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Bullying... the new trendy social issue. How are we doing at addressing it?

    I don't think any reasonable person would deny that bullying exists, but... are we properly addressing the issue or are we blowing it out of proportion?
    Bullying should be addressed. The current fad may be leading to some excesses, but is a good thing that the issue has been raised. In my experience just having teachers call us on it, reduced our collective bullying/taunting. Teachers who bully, encourage or intentionally tolerate bullying should be fired.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It really depends on the kind of bullying. If some pale-face is getting cornered in the bathroom by 3 jocks that are about to beat the snot out of him, that needs to be addressed. If it's someone getting a tongue-lashing here and there, let it go. If it's not physical, there really needs to be some over-the-top type of harassment that interferes with that kid living his or her life.

    I think there are too many people here watching Pearl Jam's video for Jeremy and jumping to panic stage.
    But that's not really bullying, that's assault and we already have laws against that. We don't need a whole new set of laws for it.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I guess I can relate to some degree. I never really got picked on, but just before I went into high school, there was an advanced placement class that I went to during the summer, at the same time as summer school. During breaks, there really wasn't anything to do so everyone kind of hung out in the weight room area. There was this big guy named Mike who was on the football team (kind of explains his being in summer school) and he and his football buddies liked to go around and beat up on people. Eventually, it was my turn and he took a shot at me in the weight room where there wasn't any room to fight and his longer reach meant he could keep hitting me without any chance that I could hit back. I backed out of the room and as soon as I had a chance, I put him on the floor. I guess it helped that I was into martial arts at the time. I didn't hurt him, although I could have, it was just a "you are going to stop doing that right now or else" kind of thing. Unfortunately, one of the teachers saw me do it and sent us both out to run laps and while we were out there, we talked and got to be really good friends. In fact, I ended up tutoring the guy in math to keep him on the football team. He was never a dick to me again because I put him in his place and he knew I could do it again.

    That whole incident today would end up with someone breaking down in tears, whining on Facebook and probably require counseling. Kids today are wimps.
    I agree some problems just need to be resolved between the involved parties and no one else.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think men and women deal with bullying differently. Seems like when a man stands up to a bully he can often win the respect of the guy. They can beat the crap out of each other and then become best friends. With women you have to watch your back for the rest of your life. Hate to dis my own gender but ....
    Sometimes the situation can be good, as it can test your mettle. Standing up to a bully can boost your self-esteem...and sometimes get you the girl.


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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Did you read the rest of the reply? I think it explained my position fairly well I thought. Bullying is an opportunity to earn respect and should be looked on as such.
    I read it. I simply disagree with it. A completely ostracized 14 yr old, constantly taunted, insulted, ridiculed and alone, has neither the emotional nor physical capacity to take on the entire school while adults imply by their inaction that she must somehow deserve the abuse. We disagree on this.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    In case you have not noticed, the Anti-Bullying campaign is a pro-gay rights campaign in disguise. Every now and then they will throw in a non-white face to make it seem like it isn't what it is, but in the end, that is all it is.
    Being perceived as gay or effeminate is one of the most common reasons why kids get bullied. It doesn´t impact just the one kid, it sends a message to all kids that they need to look and behave a certain way to avoid trouble. That oppresses everyone. (which is fine with homophobes)

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Being perceived as gay or effeminate is one of the most common reasons why kids get bullied. It doesn´t impact just the one kid, it sends a message to all kids that they need to look and behave a certain way to avoid trouble. That oppresses everyone. (which is fine with homophobes)
    Kids will taunt each other no matter what argument they come up with. Could be what you said, could be their red hair, could be the clothes they wear. You are not going to stop it. It is human nature.

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