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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Bullying has always been ignored, and the victim told to "man up" or "quit whining", etc. Teachers pretend it doesn't exist because they don't want to deal with the bully's parents, parents of bullies excuse it with part of growing up, parents of victims wring their hands because they honestly don't know what to do about it.

    Fact is, bullying has gone global, and bullying kills. Victims of bullying, even if they don't take their own lives (which all too many do) have their personalities irrevocably changed by what is happening to them. Their sense of self-worth, of safety, of simply being a kid, are all stripped from them. And we as a nation have allowed this to happen.

    No, we haven't done enough to stop it... not by a long shot.
    Quite often the parents themselves are adult bullies.

    I remember a family in particular when my kids were growing up. They moved to town when my youngest was in 5th grade. We were friends with the school principal and he told me that when their kids would get in trouble... for some type of bullying, usually... the parents would stomp in and threaten lawsuits and the such if the school did any kind of disciplinary action.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Not sure what that means. Are you implying somehow that robs it of it's validity?
    I am saying it is not about bullying everybody--just about not bullying certain somebodies.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, what we probably need to be doing, as we did when I was young and in school, is let someone kick the bully's ass, rather than teaching children to be passive, and punishing them for fighting back against an aggressor.
    That's what my dad taught me. It used to work too, if you had the guts to stand up for yourself and face your bully.

    Problem is, times have changed. Used to be a one-on-one situation, and even if you lost you still got credit for standing up and most bullies stopped bothering you. Today 3 to ten people will jump on one kid and do a beat down. Then youtube it. Maybe it needs to be addressed today more than it did back in the old days.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I am saying it is not about bullying everybody--just about not bullying certain somebodies.
    I've never heard that accusation before. May I ask you what you base it on? And if it is accurate why would they want to mask it behind a broader message like that? (I can draw my own conclusions, I am asking your thoughts) Also, why would you point that out? What is the point? (not being snide, honest question)

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That's what my dad taught me. It used to work too, if you had the guts to stand up for yourself and face your bully.

    Problem is, times have changed. Used to be a one-on-one situation, and even if you lost you still got credit for standing up and most bullies stopped bothering you. Today 3 to ten people will jump on one kid and do a beat down. Then youtube it. Maybe it needs to be addressed today more than it did back in the old days.
    As long as we teach children to be passive, bullying will increase in frequency and in severity.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That's what my dad taught me. It used to work too, if you had the guts to stand up for yourself and face your bully.

    Problem is, times have changed. Used to be a one-on-one situation, and even if you lost you still got credit for standing up and most bullies stopped bothering you. Today 3 to ten people will jump on one kid and do a beat down. Then youtube it. Maybe it needs to be addressed today more than it did back in the old days.
    Times may have changed.....but whether there is one or more doesn't really matter. As long as one stand up for themselves. Regardless if they take an asswhipping or can win. Such now imparts that you will stand up for yourself. Win lose or draw.

    Still works today and even in prisons. Any dealing with gang-bangers knows about bullying. Even from their very own. Once respect is earned.....it can't be taken. Only lost.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As long as we teach children to be passive, bullying will increase in frequency and in severity.
    Well, I am not advocating passivity. You still need to stand up for yourself if you want to accomplish anything in this world. That doesn't mean as parents and civic minded citizens we should ignore the social differences kids face today. Gang jumping in and cyber-bullying weren't as much of an issue then as now.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    To you ,but I am letting you know what I did and did not say. Your in interpretation has your spin on it. Your version is yours and mine is accurate.
    Why can't you just acknowledge you said something stupid, correct yourself, and move on?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    In case you have not noticed, the Anti-Bullying campaign is a pro-gay rights campaign in disguise. Every now and then they will throw in a non-white face to make it seem like it isn't what it is, but in the end, that is all it is.
    You're about 90 degrees wrong on the pro-gay thing. For one thing, a lot of the victims of bullying are girls.
    In high school I fought bullies, several times, because I hated how they picked on weaker people. It is what it's always been but it doesn't have to always be that way.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Times may have changed.....but whether there is one or more doesn't really matter. As long as one stand up for themselves. Regardless if they take an asswhipping or can win. Such now imparts that you will stand up for yourself. Win lose or draw.

    Still works today and even in prisons. Any dealing with gang-bangers knows about bullying. Even from their very own. Once respect is earned.....it can't be taken. Only lost.
    Not really. If I am a crip and 5 bloods see me? I can fight my ass off and they'll still gladly beat the crap out of me and spit on me too. Prison? Gangs respect power and they don't waste it on minor issues. So in there sometimes facing up works, in others not so much.

    Now back the the real world...how do you handle a situation when some mean girls post embarassing things about your daughter on the internet...for millions to see? How do you handle your son getting a beat down so bad he almost loses an eye or suffers a broken bone? Tell him to go back so they can happily do it again? Back in the day I belonged to a teen gang, and unless it was a gang battle they pretty much let it be one on one. Now? Pssh, it's a gang beat-down.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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