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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Has anybody seen some of the Maury Povich shows where he reunites bullies with the people that were bullied?

    Yes when they were kids they suffered some pain, most of which was mental, but they bettered their lives because of it.

    What would have happened to those people if they were not bullied?
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    probably because no one ever told them to stand up to their bully and it has bothered them for all their life.
    Maybe that is true but I always saw school as something I had to get done before my life really started, so nothing that happened there was of importance to me.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Maybe that is true but I always saw school as something I had to get done before my life really started, so nothing that happened there was of importance to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I'm confused, are only white kids gay?
    Yep. Black kids get the gay beat out of them at home since medicaid doesn't cover conversion therapy

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    Re: Bullying...

    I think we're on track and taking many of the right measures. When I was in high school (not all that long ago, but I guess a decade is a good chunk of time) the only thing to stop bullies was a video we watched about a kid who killed himself because he was bullied. It helped for about a week and then everybody forgot about it. The problem wasn't just that kids were bullied, it was that those who were neither bullies nor the bullied made no attempt to help the situation. They'd just jump on the pile and make fun of the weak, the underprivileged, the different, even the deaf -- seriously, the deaf. The natural urge is to make fun of the people everybody else is making fun of to divert attention away from yourself, who could be next.

    With the numerous campaigns that exist today, I think we're headed in the right direction. Many schools have more comprehensive anti-bullying programs than they did 10 years ago, and more importantly, the students are exposed to media campaigns and documentaries, which really does help IMHO. I don't think you can ever stop the bullies from bullying. But I think you can persuade the rest of the student body to be civil toward students who are bullied. Years after high school I wrote to the students I felt were bullied and apologized to them for what they went through and for not doing more to be kind to them. I was surprised when told that I was the only person who bothered to do this. My advice to anybody in their 20s: do what I did. You could really help somebody who may still be recovering from the trauma that was the first 18 years of their life.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Understandable. But there are lots of ways that kids are bullied that go above and beyond, "Sally said I'm a fatty," or anything like that. Internet bullying is really a problem - much moreso than I though until I watched this movie with my girls about cyberbullying. I was always like, "Oh just get up and walk away from the computer if it's that bad," but that was a very simplistic way to look at it. It's more than that. Computers are encompassed in kids lives these days (most of them, anyway) and bullying online is even more harsh than in person. We all know from experience that people are nastier online, and would say much worse things online, than in person. That kind of thing can be stopped, and should be stopped, but usually it's not, until it's too late.
    You have to be the stupidest type of person to cyber-bully. Bullies get away with what they do because nobody else knows about it, or cares.

    Everything a cyber-bully does is documented and can be used to stop that person right away.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I suspect that the cyber aspect is what has caused the issue to increase. Back in the day, at least you could go home and be with your own family and escape the onslaught for awhile. Now, kids can't even do that.
    Really? Can the computer or phone not be turned off?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    You think so? When I was a freshman in high school there was a girl this one guy liked, but she liked me and it pissed him off. He (let's call him E) had this buddy (MM) who was like a hulk compared to the rest of us kids, weighed like 180 lbs and could bench press 200. Real musclebound but not too smart, so E decided to have MM deal with me by having him pick a fight with me in the boys locker room during gym class. I weighed like 120 lbs, just a regular kid, and kept telling him I didn't want to when he sucker punched me.

    So I fought back...in front of my whole gym class. I got a couple of good licks in at first but hardly fazed him. The kids watching started by making fun of me (you know, sucking up to the bigger guy), but then they started getting quiet, and then started telling me to stay down and telling MM to stop. MM must have knocked me down about eight times before a teacher got there. But I never stayed down. I just kept getting up.

    Ther principal suspended us both for a week. But after that day NO ONE in school ever messed with me again, including MM. Sometimes violence DOES solved the problem.
    I wouldn't consider that violence, that was defense.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Bullying is bad for your health: Victims of playground taunts are six times more likely to develop a serious illness in later life | Mail Online

    The above study may not be definitive, but I think it's a better source of outcomes than Maury Povich.
    Though I highly doubt what I went through in school caused my 'illness' that landed at age 45, a lot has to do with how one deals with the event of 'bullying'.

    As with many things, we make a choice along the way to either let it be the life-long reason we blame every failure on, or we take it and use it as a learning step to make sure it doesn't happen again to us, and help prevent it happening to others.

    Too much of society today leans to victimhood, being thin-skinned and everything not of their norm is offensive. We, as a society, have allowed that state to grow to such a degree that people don't (both children and adults) know how to deal with anything contrary to their narrow tunnel through life.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If I'm reading your posts correctly, you're pretty much an absolutist on this issue... non-violence is always the answer.

    Am I correct, or do you allow for some exceptions?
    There are a few exceptions that I'd allow, mostly when your life is in danger, which should almost never happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not sure how connected you are with reality. School officials dont stop it even when it is drawn to their attention. In your 'perfect world' we wouldnt need law enforcement and jails either. Im sure it is a wonderful place and you go there often. In your mind.
    Of course we wouldn't, but the world isn't perfect and most violence is solvable. There will always be exceptions but there is no reason to stop striving towards that now. Adding violence to a problem doesn't solve it especially when dealing with children/teens. Look at abusive homes as to why.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You have to be the stupidest type of person to cyber-bully. Bullies get away with what they do because nobody else knows about it, or cares.

    Everything a cyber-bully does is documented and can be used to stop that person right away.
    It also works the best, because the internet is forever. So even if its stopped, it will always be online to be viewed at one time or another. Look at the Star Wars kid or Numa Numa dance as prime examples of cyber bullying.
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