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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Has anybody seen some of the Maury Povich shows where he reunites bullies with the people that were bullied?

    Yes when they were kids they suffered some pain, most of which was mental, but they bettered their lives because of it.

    What would have happened to those people if they were not bullied?

    Did you just cite "Maury Povich" as a reference? Dude that's rich, citing a show that is all about escalating faux issues and completely unreal confrontations. LOL Maybe not the best example to use in this instance, ya think?
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    They could, if they had parents who didn't cede parenting to the TV and internet. Any child traumatized by cyber-bullying need only cease to log onto the internet - it soon goes away when the intended audience isn't listening/viewing.
    I used to think that, too, John, but it's not that easy. When I was a kid, if there was a kid that was bullied, he was bullied by a handful of people, usually, and that was it. Now, it doesn't matter if a girl turns off her computer or not - the same viciousness and hatefulness is going on whether she's there to see it or not.

    One cell phone camera + Facebook could potentially = destruction in a teenage girl's life. Girls are so mean, anyway. It's more girls than boys now. I have a very good friend whose daughter was being mercilessly bullied, because they didn't have a lot of money. They picked on her because of her phone. It was an older trac phone that her Dad gave to her, and put minutes on there so she could be like the other kids and have a cell phone. Thing was, the bitches at her school still made fun of her because it wasn't an iPhone. And it's not just going on in the halls at school. It happens online, with increasing frequency, and it gets spread until it goes viral in the school. Then, no matter if she was watching it happen online or not, the bullying gets worse in school, because she's being called names, laughed at, etc.

    It's not just as easy as walking away. I always thought the same thing, but I was wrong.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Has anybody seen some of the Maury Povich shows where he reunites bullies with the people that were bullied?

    Yes when they were kids they suffered some pain, most of which was mental, but they bettered their lives because of it.

    What would have happened to those people if they were not bullied?
    Bullying is bad for your health: Victims of playground taunts are six times more likely to develop a serious illness in later life | Mail Online

    The above study may not be definitive, but I think it's a better source of outcomes than Maury Povich.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    While this solves the problem for the school, this does nothing to punish the attacker.

    With physical attacks the attacker should be referred to the pólice for charges. With mental attacks, well they have no power intil the attackee gives them power.

    I can't remember one day in high school worring about what anybody thought of me. I think that is an important lesson to teach especially girls these days. Thier life does not end if they are not the most popular girl in school, after all high school is temporary and it should have no effect a what somebody does afterwards. Heck, high school is the easiest part of life compared to working a real job.
    funny, when I look back on HS, most of the "popular" kids peaked in HS. many of the "cool kids" from my class are either dead (drug/alcohol abuse) or in jail. Those of us who were the "nerds" are the ones who went to college and actually had successful "post-HS" lives. The "hot chicks" that all the girls wanted to be and all the guys wanted to be with..... one of them is a 300+ pounder living in a trailer park, another has been married 6-7 times, another died from skin cancer in her late 30s due to excessive tanning, etc, etc, etc. The kool guys.... one of them just got out of prison for the 3rd or 4th time for drugs, one of them was shot and killed when he was caught porking another man's wife, one of them is still in prison for killing the guy he caught porking his wife, one of them is still driving a delivery truck for a bread company making barely over minmum wage.

    meanwhile, the skinny girl with glasses has been a successful lawyer in Atlanta for the last 25 years, the chubby guy with the bad haircut has owned his own construction company for 30 years, the fat black girl is a college professor, the hairy guy with big feet is the VP in charge of marketing at a major polymer manufacturer and the skinny, nerdy "star trek" geek (me) is a highly decorated combat veteran and a freakin rocket scientist.

    theme song for all the HS bigshots and bullies:

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    and I'm going to drink till I get my fill
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    but I probably will
    Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
    a little of the glory of, well time slips away
    and leaves you with nothing mister but
    boring stories of glory days


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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    I used to think that, too, John, but it's not that easy. When I was a kid, if there was a kid that was bullied, he was bullied by a handful of people, usually, and that was it. Now, it doesn't matter if a girl turns off her computer or not - the same viciousness and hatefulness is going on whether she's there to see it or not.

    One cell phone camera + Facebook could potentially = destruction in a teenage girl's life. Girls are so mean, anyway. It's more girls than boys now. I have a very good friend whose daughter was being mercilessly bullied, because they didn't have a lot of money. They picked on her because of her phone. It was an older trac phone that her Dad gave to her, and put minutes on there so she could be like the other kids and have a cell phone. Thing was, the bitches at her school still made fun of her because it wasn't an iPhone. And it's not just going on in the halls at school. It happens online, with increasing frequency, and it gets spread until it goes viral in the school. Then, no matter if she was watching it happen online or not, the bullying gets worse in school, because she's being called names, laughed at, etc.

    It's not just as easy as walking away. I always thought the same thing, but I was wrong.
    I appreciate what your saying - my reference was to the issue of a supportive family and far too many young people today don't have supportive families to help take away some of the stress.

    As for girls, they haven't been all "sugar and spice" since I don't know when - you're bang on about the viciousness of some "little" girls.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Bullying is bad for your health: Victims of playground taunts are six times more likely to develop a serious illness in later life | Mail Online

    The above study may not be definitive, but I think it's a better source of outcomes than Maury Povich.
    If that is true, the question is why. Why is something that happened during the school years affecting a person years later?

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    In case you have not noticed, the Anti-Bullying campaign is a pro-gay rights campaign in disguise. Every now and then they will throw in a non-white face to make it seem like it isn't what it is, but in the end, that is all it is.
    I'm confused, are only white kids gay?
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    Re: Bullying...

    I wish I could go back into my childhood and be a kinder, gentler child.

    I never was a "bully." I always felt compassion towards the weaker people and made honest attempts to include them in my social circle and lift them up emotionally.

    Now, keep in mind, I was raised in Texas and I am talking about circa 1970-1976. I was a student who's hair was a bit long and my preference of music was always rock and roll. My neighborhood was diverse with many races living peacefully among each other. The biggest problem we had back then, bully-wise, was the white kids who wore their cowboy hats and boots to school, hated hippies and blacks and loved their dipping tobacco and country music. They were quick to bully anyone different from them. Fortunately, I was 6' 0" from the 10th grade on and was a pretty big kid. I also had studied martial arts since the sixth grade.

    I never looked for trouble but I must admit, nothing gave me more pleasure than to beat the living **** out of these goat ropers who used to come around harassing and bullying my friends. Eventually, the word got out and they left me alone, personally. But they would still bully those who appeared different and weaker than them. They might have well been bullying me because I took that personal too. That one day in April, 1975, when the meanest, baddest, bull riding senior in the FFA decided to "meet" me behind the gym to set this hippy straight, resulted in him getting two teeth knocked out and a broken rib. I didn't get a scratch. Even though there were a dozen witnesses who told the principal, Mr. Urban, that the goat roper started the fight and threw the first punch, (which missed by a mile,) I was still diciplined for fighting. You see, Mr. Urban also wore boots and a high and tight hair style. It HAD to piss him off that his star goat roper just got his ass kicked by a hippy.

    Ahh, to be young again.

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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If that is true, the question is why. Why is something that happened during the school years affecting a person years later?
    probably because no one ever told them to stand up to their bully and it has bothered them for all their life.
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    Re: Bullying...

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I'm confused, are only white kids gay?
    of course, black kids aren't "gay"....they're on the down-low serious, it has been my experience that many blacks are not as accepting of homosexuality as are whites.
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