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  • Abortion

    18 45.00%
  • Gay Marriage

    5 12.50%
  • Government spending/debt

    2 5.00%
  • Immigration

    1 2.50%
  • Healthcare

    5 12.50%
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Thread: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Issues no longer matter; it's ideology...
    I don't think you can separate the two. Because ideology is just a certain systematic way of dealing with issues.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    I had to call it healthcare. Around here if you say you think Obamacare is a necessary step on our nations path to UHC, well, lets just say them's fighting words. Abortion not so much anymore.
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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Yeah, but it sounds better.
    No doubt.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I voted Healthcare, but that's wrong when I think about it.

    Republicans are polarized against Obamacare as a whole, but love the vast bulk of it.

    A better choice is abortion as Democrats are much more likely to support where Republicans, after purging Libertarians and moderates are against it.

    I feel the rest of them aren't polarized as much as abortion is as there are plenty of gun right Democrats, several gun control Republicans, gay marriage is youth republicans and democrats against old republicans, spending everyone basically agrees on the framework, and immigration has plenty of democrats against it and several high profile republicans for it.
    To me, abortion has got to be the biggest NON-issue. I believe it is the biggest example of distraction. Those on the far right get led on a righteous crusade to ban it. Those on the far left get whipped into a frenzy of fear that it will be restricted or eliminated by those on the far right. And the party leaders use it to keep the fringes of their parties in line.

    Viewed from the middle, I don't see abortion going anywhere in terms of significant changes, regardless of who is in office, so all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from both sides is just unwelcome noise.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    To me, abortion has got to be the biggest NON-issue. I believe it is the biggest example of distraction. Those on the far right get led on a righteous crusade to ban it. Those on the far left get whipped into a frenzy of fear that it will be restricted or eliminated by those on the far right. And the party leaders use it to keep the fringes of their parties in line.
    But that doesn't mean it's not the most polarized issue. I think it's a wedge issue that the GOP, well, parts of it, doesn't care about it in actuality. They need it to drive voters. But that doesn't mean the views aren't extremely polarized.

    Viewed from the middle, I don't see abortion going anywhere in terms of significant changes, regardless of who is in office, so all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from both sides is just unwelcome noise.
    That's true, but you asked for most polarized issue and IMO, that's the one issue that breaks so solidly down partisan lines.
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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But that doesn't mean it's not the most polarized issue. I think it's a wedge issue that the GOP, well, parts of it, doesn't care about it in actuality. They need it to drive voters. But that doesn't mean the views aren't extremely polarized.

    That's true, but you asked for most polarized issue and IMO, that's the one issue that breaks so solidly down partisan lines.
    Fair point. Ya got me there. It can be polarizing and a non-issue at the same time.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Fair point. Ya got me there. It can be polarizing and a non-issue at the same time.
    Indeed. Bush drove the abortion vote in 2000 and then failed to do much about it. Same for gay marriage. Some issues are highly polarizing, but once a group gets into power riding it, they do nothing about it suggesting it's not a real issue.

    The GOP IMO needs abortion to be an issue to bring out voters, but they also need abortion never to be resolved. Thus, it turns into a political tool that's a non-issue.
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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Indeed. Bush drove the abortion vote in 2000 and then failed to do much about it. Same for gay marriage. Some issues are highly polarizing, but once a group gets into power riding it, they do nothing about it suggesting it's not a real issue.

    The GOP IMO needs abortion to be an issue to bring out voters, but they also need abortion never to be resolved. Thus, it turns into a political tool that's a non-issue.
    Love your post.
    Been saying this for decades and usually I just get a confused look from people lol.

    My belief is that the corporations that truly run the GOP do not care about abortion in the slightest.
    It is merely a rallying cry. A tool. An instrument.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Love your post.
    Been saying this for decades and usually I just get a confused look from people lol.

    My belief is that the corporations that truly run the GOP do not care about abortion in the slightest.
    It is merely a rallying cry. A tool. An instrument.
    I certainly don't think that corporations have anything to do with who runs the GOP. No more so than the corporatism being practiced on the LEFT side of aisle. Hello GM, Verizon, ATT. along with every other phone provider issuing Obamaphones. Then there are those corporations affectionately called Government Motors and Government Sachs for good reason. And Government Electric (GE) who seemed to get some really sweet deals provided them by the left on matters of green energy.

    It's really unfortunate that abortion has become a litmus test. What the GOP does is uses its Social Conservative base (who often support big government through entitlements) by using abortion as a means to get their support. Most social conservatives fall for every sound good spending policy the federal government can come up with. If it sounds like it is a just and right thing to do, they vote for it not weighing its consequences on the freedoms of others or its constitutionality, but merely on emotion they support it. The legalization of abortion at the national level has always been a case of bad law. It should be no business of the Federal government on such issues. It should have always remained a state by state issue. Until folks get out of the mindset of an over powerful central government, the abuses will only continue to worsen on both sides of the aisle.

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    Re: What is the most polarized political issue in the US?[W:30]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No more so than the corporatism being practiced on the LEFT side of aisle. Hello GM, Verizon, ATT. along with every other phone provider issuing Obamaphones.
    I do not blame you for thinking this. It is not only Republicans that think this, but also more than half of the Democrats too.
    The falsehood campaign of the GOP has been very thorough and the term "Obamaphone" is rather catchy.
    However, Not only are they very far from being "Obama Phones" but Obama, or any Democrat for that matter, had nothing to do with them what so ever.
    In fact, the program originated under Ronald Reagan.

    You might find this an interesting read:
    The Obama Phone?
    Or this:
    Origin of

    Anyhow, you wont prove to me that the GOP is not just a shill for the mega wealthy and takes on ideology it could care less about just to strengthen and rally its base, and I in turn will not prove to you that it is.
    So, I wont bother trying.
    But I thought I should enlighten you on something I CAN prove.

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