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  • John F. Kennedy

    15 16.30%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    1 1.09%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 2.17%
  • Gerald Ford

    2 2.17%
  • Jimmy Carter

    2 2.17%
  • Ronald Regan

    34 36.96%
  • George Bush Sr.

    3 3.26%
  • Bill Clinton

    24 26.09%
  • George W. Bush

    4 4.35%
  • Barack Obama

    5 5.43%
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Thread: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    executive order 1066 is what got him whacked

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    And to continue to fulfill the every 20-year prophecy of a POTUS dying in office. It takes a real angry assclown to celebrate the death of a POTUS. We Real Americans were all grateful President Reagan and President Ford survived attempts on their lives.
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    yer so right the best thing he did for the country was to get blasted from the grassy knoll

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    yer so right the best thing he did for the country was to get blasted from the grassy knoll
    That is just horribly bad taste. The man was president of the United States at least show him respect for that.

    At least give yourself and JFK the dignity of expressing your opinion with at least semi-proper English.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    I are knot gonna do it
    hah Where would the current administration be if they weren't allowed to print money willy nilly?

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    Not that I'm trying to ignore your other points, but isn't what Khrushchev wanted were missiles in Cuba ?
    No, Khrushchev put missiles in Cuba because NATO had missiles in Turkey aimed at the Soviet Union. Khrushchev wanted those missiles out of Turkey and JFK ordered the NATO missiles out of Turkey when Khrushchev said he would remove his missiles from Cuba. JFK insisted that this be kept a secret from the American people and Khrushchev concured. It remained a secret for twenty five years.

    You have to remember that the Kennedy klan has a well established machine in place to protect the Kennedy legacy. But that machine is getting rusty and Teddy Kennedy is no longer around to see that machine is well oiled.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Either Bush or Obama.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    No, Khrushchev put missiles in Cuba because NATO had missiles in Turkey aimed at the Soviet Union. Khrushchev wanted those missiles out of Turkey and JFK ordered the NATO missiles out of Turkey when Khrushchev said he would remove his missiles from Cuba. JFK insisted that this be kept a secret from the American people and Khrushchev concured. It remained a secret for twenty five years.

    You have to remember that the Kennedy klan has a well established machine in place to protect the Kennedy legacy. But that machine is getting rusty and Teddy Kennedy is no longer around to see that machine is well oiled.
    Ah I get the jist of what you're trying to say, but I'd like to make an adaption to it.

    What you are saying is that Khrushchev wanted a level playing field. This could be achieved by with a status quo of missiles in Turkey and Cuba or with a absence of both. However the United States couldn't stand-by with Missiles a stone's throw away from Miami. So the only real end result would be mutual "demisslizing" of those areas.

    If this is the case though would you say the Cuban missile crisis was actually no real crisis at all?

    Actually if I'm not mistaken didn't we never actually take our missiles out of Turkey?
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    For once you are actually not mistaken

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    and when he got shot he lived

    hah yeah JFK my posterior, The failed Bay of Pigs invasion nearly caused a nooclear exchange during the Cuban missile crisis.
    JFK was sworn into office on January 1, 1961. The Eisenhower Administration had already concocted a plan to invade Cuba using Cuban expatriates led the CIA “officers.” They fully expected to go for it if then Vice-President Nixon had been elected President. Once he lost to JFK the CIA spent Kennedy’s first two months in office convincing him of the effectiveness of the plan and that it would result in a general uprising which would require NO AMERICAN troops in support. That timing was of the essence.

    Kennedy trusted Eisenhower and the CIA so he ordered the action on April 17, 1961; and two days later the rebels were all caught by the Cuban military...gee kinda reminds me of several subsequent mistakes by the CIA misleading Presidential policy; like the Shah’s Iran, and the WMD’s in Iraq.

    Kennedy was not about to commit American troops to any invasion of Cuba. That might have led to real war in Europe with the Soviet Union. He did exactly what he said he would to the CIA, back a newly formed democratic Cuban government or try his best to get the rebels out.

    As for the Cuban missile crisis? That was the first time a U.S. President stared down the nuclear armed Soviet Union and the Soviet's blinked first. Everything that came after was built on Kennedy's non-appeasement policy with the Soviet Union. Reagan and his "administration" stood on the shoulders of JFK. Without that "Liberal President" standing up during the Cuban Missile Crisis the Soviets wouldn't have worried about "Hard liner" Reagan at all.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    I've been a fan of Richard Nixon and his accomplishments all my life. I came of age during Nixon's Presidency. His impact on America, both good - from ending the Vietnam war to opening up relations with China - and the bad - letting the Watergate burglary take down his Presidency - paints him as one of the most influential Presidents of our time. Nixon took the job seriously and worked hard at it, unlike many men before and after him.
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