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  • John F. Kennedy

    15 16.30%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    1 1.09%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 2.17%
  • Gerald Ford

    2 2.17%
  • Jimmy Carter

    2 2.17%
  • Ronald Regan

    34 36.96%
  • George Bush Sr.

    3 3.26%
  • Bill Clinton

    24 26.09%
  • George W. Bush

    4 4.35%
  • Barack Obama

    5 5.43%
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Thread: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsnake1 View Post
    John F. Kennedy - 1961-1963
    Lyndon B. Johnson - 1963-1969
    Richard Nixon - 1969-1974
    Gerald Ford - 1974-1977
    Jimmy Carter - 1977-1981
    Ronald Regan - 1981-1989
    George Bush Sr. - 1989-1993
    Bill Clinton - 1993-2001
    George W. Bush - 2001-2009
    Barack Obama - 2009-pres.
    I don't believe questions like this are fair. The most recent 30 years is too recent to make a completely valid judgement... good or bad... on any President. To really know you have to see how their actions and policies shook out. What may have been popular at the time may prove to be a boondoggle, and visa versa.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You may want to check the spelling of Reagan. Even Cheney stated that 'Reagan proved that deficits didn't matter". We now have a 17 trillion Total Accumulated Debt that proves different.
    You are attributing the lesson that bonehead Cheney gleaned from Reagan's Presidency, not anything Reagan himself said and/or may have believed.

    That being said... was Cheney wrong? I believe his sentiment was/is repugnant, but let's ask what he meant.

    Did he mean "deficits don't matter" as a matter of fiscal policy, and debt should be used to effect policy?

    Or, did he mean "deficits don't matter" as a political consideration? That they could run up a deficit and not suffer political fallout for it. Shoot, maybe even gain politically.

    Either one is repugnant, but if it is the latter one (political) then he wasn't necessarily wrong... in the sense that in spite of people's whining and moaning over the deficit and debt we still elect and re-elect politicians that are willing to spend us into oblivion. Especially Congress, which is where the real purse strings are anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xsnake1 View Post
    I think it was Ronald Regan because he had good economic policies and he did most of the stuff that led to the end of the Cold War and the fall of the USSR.
    ...and this is why I say we need to see how things shake out. I have long been a Reagan admirer, for the same reasons you state. But, he also greatly increased the drug war and gave us things like civil asset forfeiture which has caused uncountable damage since then. He may have won the Cold war, but replaced it with a war on his own people. Nothing noble about that.
    Last edited by radcen; 08-18-13 at 11:51 AM.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    With Clinton we had both peace and prosperity. Its hard to beat that combination.
    Neither of which were his doing. He just got to be the luckiest guy in the history of the Presidency.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    I picked W for one reason. His judges. If Gore had won, we would not have had gun rights affirmed by the USSC. Roberts and Alito rather than say two more like Kagan or Sotomayor. W picked the strongest set of judges going. Brilliant young jurists like Jeffrey Sutton and Raymond Kethledge on the Circuit I mainly deal with.



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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    Isn't domestic drilling is at an all-time high. And I believe you can thank Jimmy Carter for that initiative.
    On state lands, nothing to do with federal govt. Drilling on federal leases is down because of Obamas illegal moritorium on gulf drilling, stalling of approvals, and blocking of fracking.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Reagan had next to nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR. That was all Gorbachev.
    Saying he had next to nothing to do with it is easily proved false. Reagan put serious pressure on the USSR through military spending, economic policies, political rhetoric and eventually nuclear disarmament. He was as critical to the collapse as Gorbachev.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Blast! A pox on the Generation X kids coming on and voting for Reagan and Clinton.


    STOOOPPPP!!


    Don't be blinded by their relatively recent fame! Focus of the demi-god of camelot, John F. Kennedy!!!


    A vote for Kennedy is a vote to the people!!!



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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Blast! A pox on the Generation X kids coming on and voting for Reagan and Clinton.


    STOOOPPPP!!


    Don't be blinded by their relatively recent fame! Focus of the demi-god of camelot, John F. Kennedy!!!


    A vote for Kennedy is a vote to the people!!!



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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Reagan had next to nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR. That was all Gorbachev.
    Gorbachev had almost nothing to do with it. The foundation was already ready to collapse, he just finished it off.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Gerald Ford because he was barely President long enough to screw up.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Since JFK wasn't elected and all! Or was that Daley tossing voter machines into Lake Michigan? May have led to Nixon's paranoia. I suppose being the only POTUS who was murdered since 1900 doesn't qualify him either.
    Look how fierce and cute you are...

    They dont deserve to be on the list because there wasnt enough time to fairly judge their presidency.

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