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  • John F. Kennedy

    15 16.30%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    1 1.09%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 2.17%
  • Gerald Ford

    2 2.17%
  • Jimmy Carter

    2 2.17%
  • Ronald Regan

    34 36.96%
  • George Bush Sr.

    3 3.26%
  • Bill Clinton

    24 26.09%
  • George W. Bush

    4 4.35%
  • Barack Obama

    5 5.43%
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Thread: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsnake1 View Post
    JFK was assassinated after 2 years, not 3
    2 years and 10 months actually, but who's counting???
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Didn't see anything about Eisenhower warning Kennedy about the Bay of Pigs issue. I also found this response link on the wikipdia site.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...ry-of-cia.html

    Seems like at least one informed individual objected to the validity of the author's "facts" regarding history prior to his actual journalistic work in 1990's. Who knows what Ike said to JFK? Maybe not this author? IN any case I don't intend to locate and read an entire book to confirm a claim made in this forum. Sorry bud.
    References of Eisenhower telling JFK not to sign off on the CIA backed Bay of Pigs until there was a popular Cuban government in exile and providing air cover and CAS can be found in many biographies on Eisenhower.

    In Eisenhower's own memoirs he mentions of JFK calling him asking for advice on many occasions. JFK calling him, not Eisenhower calling JFK. But JFK only listen then he turned to his "Young and Brightest."

    Another excellent source that I use all of the time is the CIA. They are always declassifying information under the FOIA and releasing it. Some times they are big dumps of declassified information that keep historians busy for years. The last big CIA dump I believe was in 2006 or around then. They have a search engine. Who knows what you will find. -> Freedom of Information Act Electronic Reading Room | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The golden age of space exploration? You mean Russian space exploration?

    1957 was the year of "OMG! The godless commies have put up the first man made satellite!"
    12 years later, 1969, well before Reagan's time, we landed men on the moon. That would have been the golden age of space exploration for America. It's been all downhill from there, with today's astronauts hitch hiking on Russian rockets to get to the space station.
    The Space Shuttle was the most advanced piece of machinery to ever exit the atmosphere. Not only could it carry 5 to 7 crew members, but it could carry up to 53,600 pounds of payload. That's the equivalent of a fully loaded Canada-air Regional Jet OR 7.5 Chevy Suburbans. It was instrumental in the production of 2 space stations, the Hubble telescope, numerous missions to the moon and countless scientific flights whose research led to disease treatments that might never have been discovered here on earth. Yes, what the Apollo astronauts did in their day was amazing, but it amounted to lighting a giant firecracker under their butt to see how far it could take you. The Shuttle represented space flight. It is still the greatest accomplishment in aviation.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I think JFK because he realized the roots of all evil in this country. It cost him his life.
    If Kennedy had not been killed, he would have been considered a mediocre president at best

    he had some good points-such as supporting the creation of the special forces he gave good speeches. He had a gorgeous beloved first lady. He was a brave man who saved a crew member's life in combat.
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The golden age of space exploration? You mean Russian space exploration?

    1957 was the year of "OMG! The godless commies have put up the first man made satellite!"
    12 years later, 1969, well before Reagan's time, we landed men on the moon. That would have been the golden age of space exploration for America.
    On air force base schools starting in 1958. It was Math and everything else taught like Math.
    It's been all downhill from there, with today's astronauts hitch hiking on Russian rockets to get to the space station.
    On this, I would say the appetite of a certain group of cost-cutters. Hopefully CERN and ITER are worth it. I would like to see Fusion rockets before I leave this Earth.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If Kennedy had not been killed, he would have been considered a mediocre president at best

    he had some good points-such as supporting the creation of the special forces he gave good speeches. He had a gorgeous beloved first lady. He was a brave man who saved a crew member's life in combat.
    Okay that it! I am forced to sick the "Spanish Inquisition" on you for your foul and nefarious blasphemy!!



    Sorry I had to take such drastic action but perhaps now you will know better and hold JFK in the proper reverence!
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Okay that it! I am forced to sick the "Spanish Inquisition" on you for your foul and nefarious blasphemy!!



    Sorry I had to take such drastic action but perhaps now you will know better and hold JFK in the proper reverence!
    LOL and I will retaliate with

    YES,

    its them!!

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Good point on the Space Shuttle. It is time for the next generation rockets. Only with the whole world collaborating can we afford it. All the great minds must be together. Our Space accomplishments bring us together and we advance technologically like no other except war.
    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    The Space Shuttle was the most advanced piece of machinery to ever exit the atmosphere. Not only could it carry 5 to 7 crew members, but it could carry up to 53,600 pounds of payload. That's the equivalent of a fully loaded Canada-air Regional Jet OR 7.5 Chevy Suburbans. It was instrumental in the production of 2 space stations, the Hubble telescope, numerous missions to the moon and countless scientific flights whose research led to disease treatments that might never have been discovered here on earth. Yes, what the Apollo astronauts did in their day was amazing, but it amounted to lighting a giant firecracker under their butt to see how far it could take you. The Shuttle represented space flight. It is still the greatest accomplishment in aviation.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Id say:

    Reagan
    Clinton
    Both knew the most important roles of president...public confidence and effective cooperation with the opposition party.
    Then
    Bush Sr
    Nixon
    All others are at about par or worse. Ford doesnt really deserve to be on the list, nor does Kennedy. Kennedy is romanticized due to Camelot and his assassination, but he made some stupid decisions.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ford doesnt really deserve to be on the list, nor does Kennedy. Kennedy is romanticized due to Camelot and his assassination, but he made some stupid decisions.
    Since JFK wasn't elected and all! Or was that Daley tossing voter machines into Lake Michigan? May have led to Nixon's paranoia. I suppose being the only POTUS who was murdered since 1900 doesn't qualify him either.

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