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  • John F. Kennedy

    15 16.30%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    1 1.09%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 2.17%
  • Gerald Ford

    2 2.17%
  • Jimmy Carter

    2 2.17%
  • Ronald Regan

    34 36.96%
  • George Bush Sr.

    3 3.26%
  • Bill Clinton

    24 26.09%
  • George W. Bush

    4 4.35%
  • Barack Obama

    5 5.43%
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Thread: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I remember reading that heads of state didn't deal in assassination because they were all vulnerable. I also remember reading that there were rumours Kennedy had tried to have Castro assassinated.
    Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA - Tim Weiner - Google Books

    RFK wore two hats in the JFK administration. Attorney General and his brother JFK put him charge of CIA special operations. RFK did order the CIA to assassinate Castro.

    The links above are one of those that Captain Adverse was asking for.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Not much of a factual race-track announcer either? LOL
    May explain why I'm not at Del Mar right now announcing.

    And you wont see me announcing at Santa Anita either.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    We Lincoln Dems can speak well for the Kennedys and their legacies. Start with the back-stabber of Carter, in two elections, not to mention quiddick. Obama had to do ACA first to get Ted's endorsement. Hillary wouldn't. And then there's the blunderous NCLB Ted did with Bush-43.
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    No, Khrushchev put missiles in Cuba because NATO had missiles in Turkey aimed at the Soviet Union. Khrushchev wanted those missiles out of Turkey and JFK ordered the NATO missiles out of Turkey when Khrushchev said he would remove his missiles from Cuba. JFK insisted that this be kept a secret from the American people and Khrushchev concured. It remained a secret for twenty five years.

    You have to remember that the Kennedy klan has a well established machine in place to protect the Kennedy legacy. But that machine is getting rusty and Teddy Kennedy is no longer around to see that machine is well oiled.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If JFK had filled out his term with the promise he had thus showed, he would have been reelected and I believe the USA would be a much better country today. With so little time in office, and the tragedy of his assassination, I couldn't really vote for him.

    That leaves me with Clinton, who had some hiccups in his administration (besides the obvious) by implementing law that has led to gigantic outsourcing of jobs that went overseas without the "good" jobs coming back. Nonetheless, he had solid foreign policy, the respect of most world leaders, effectively led the congress to balanced budgets, led NATO to finally act against the genocide in Kosovo, and maintained excellent domestic policy that resulted in prosperity here in America, and investments from abroad. I voted for Bill.
    Diana, Diana, you broke my heart, you going for the price on Clinton. It's not JFK's night!. JFK coulda taken Clinton apart, he coulda been a contender....it was you Diana.



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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Diana, Diana, you broke my heart, you going for the price on Clinton. It's not JFK's night!. JFK coulda taken Clinton apart, he coulda been a contender....it was you Diana.


    Still luv ya tho.
    I agree, JFK could have been the best president of my lifetime. Alas, he never got the chance. Clinton did. Sad, but true.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Xsnake1 View Post
    John F. Kennedy - 1961-1963
    Lyndon B. Johnson - 1963-1969
    Richard Nixon - 1969-1974
    Gerald Ford - 1974-1977
    Jimmy Carter - 1977-1981
    Ronald Regan - 1981-1989
    George Bush Sr. - 1989-1993
    Bill Clinton - 1993-2001
    George W. Bush - 2001-2009
    Barack Obama - 2009-pres.
    I have to say that the disasters are LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, GWB and Obama. So that left Clinton (a very distant third) JFK and Reagan. I chose Reagan because he served longer (though not JFK's fault). Because Reagan served longer and was able to handle foreign issues like Russian and East/West Germany and Iran while coming out on top (though not without some bumps in the road) all while reviving the economy and overseeing the golden age of space exploration. JFK still gets a lot of my admiration because he handled the Cuban missile crisis effectively and he was a conservative. If democrats thought more like JFK and a lot less like Obama, we'd be a much better nation today.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA - Tim Weiner - Google Books

    RFK wore two hats in the JFK administration. Attorney General and his brother JFK put him charge of CIA special operations. RFK did order the CIA to assassinate Castro.

    The links above are one of those that Captain Adverse was asking for.
    Didn't see anything about Eisenhower warning Kennedy about the Bay of Pigs issue. I also found this response link on the wikipdia site.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...ry-of-cia.html

    Seems like at least one informed individual objected to the validity of the author's "facts" regarding history prior to his actual journalistic work in 1990's. Who knows what Ike said to JFK? Maybe not this author? IN any case I don't intend to locate and read an entire book to confirm a claim made in this forum. Sorry bud.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I have to say that the disasters are LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, GWB and Obama. So that left Clinton (a very distant third) JFK and Reagan. I chose Reagan because he served longer (though not JFK's fault). Because Reagan served longer and was able to handle foreign issues like Russian and East/West Germany and Iran while coming out on top (though not without some bumps in the road) all while reviving the economy and overseeing the golden age of space exploration. JFK still gets a lot of my admiration because he handled the Cuban missile crisis effectively and he was a conservative. If democrats thought more like JFK and a lot less like Obama, we'd be a much better nation today.
    The golden age of space exploration? You mean Russian space exploration?

    1957 was the year of "OMG! The godless commies have put up the first man made satellite!"
    12 years later, 1969, well before Reagan's time, we landed men on the moon. That would have been the golden age of space exploration for America. It's been all downhill from there, with today's astronauts hitch hiking on Russian rockets to get to the space station.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I have to say that the disasters are LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, GWB and Obama. So that left Clinton (a very distant third) JFK and Reagan. I chose Reagan because he served longer (though not JFK's fault). Because Reagan served longer and was able to handle foreign issues like Russian and East/West Germany and Iran while coming out on top (though not without some bumps in the road) all while reviving the economy and overseeing the golden age of space exploration. JFK still gets a lot of my admiration because he handled the Cuban missile crisis effectively and he was a conservative. If democrats thought more like JFK and a lot less like Obama, we'd be a much better nation today.
    Now thats not cool! Sure, JFK died after three years in office...BUT Reagan had been brain-dead for six years of his term. Nancy and Co. had been running the show, and I don't see her name up there....

    That means JFK had at least one more functional year than Ronnie. LOL
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Now thats not cool! Sure, JFK died after three years in office...BUT Reagan had been brain-dead for six years of his term.

    That means JFK had at least one more functional year than Ronnie. LOL
    JFK was assassinated after 2 years, not 3
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