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  • John F. Kennedy

    15 16.30%
  • Lyndon B. Johnson

    1 1.09%
  • Richard Nixon

    2 2.17%
  • Gerald Ford

    2 2.17%
  • Jimmy Carter

    2 2.17%
  • Ronald Regan

    34 36.96%
  • George Bush Sr.

    3 3.26%
  • Bill Clinton

    24 26.09%
  • George W. Bush

    4 4.35%
  • Barack Obama

    5 5.43%
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Thread: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Wow, difficult to say. I admire Nixon. I've never understood the hatred of him. He balanced conservative and liberal policies quite well and was quite skilled in foreign policy. There were some ugly things that happened during his administration, such as the overthrow of Allende and the installation of Pinochet as a puppet in Chile. I suppose it was necessary to stop the spread of communism, though. I admire Carter as well, because he told the American people things they didn't want to hear, such as their excessive consumerism was unsustainable. I say it's probably a tie between the two.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    OKAY! Who's messing with the vote???? Alluhvasudden Bush jr. has TWO VOTES in the last 5 minutes? I wanna talk to the racing commissioner! Someone's dopin the ponies!!! LOL
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Wow, difficult to say. I admire Nixon. I've never understood the hatred of him. He balanced conservative and liberal policies quite well and was quite skilled in foreign policy. There were some ugly things that happened during his administration, such as the overthrow of Allende and the installation of Pinochet as a puppet in Chile. I suppose it was necessary to stop the spread of communism, though. I admire Carter as well, because he told the American people things they didn't want to hear, such as their excessive consumerism was unsustainable. I say it's probably a tie between the two.
    Well Carter needs the votes...although... JFK is cool, yu know you wanna... LMAO
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well Carter needs the votes...although...
    True. I just voted for him for the hell of it.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Khrushchev wasn't he the guy with the shoe?
    Yep. He was famous for having banged his shoe on the podium while giving a speech. He was also the one who had a fifty megaton bomb in his arsenal, and the one who used a Russian phrase that was translated as, "We will bury you", when the real meaning was more like, "We will leave you in the dust." As it turned out, his economic system was no match for capitalism, and we're the ones who left the Soviets in the dust.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Okay! I'm lettin you guys know RIGHT NOW that a vote for Johnson is a vote for Kennedy. So JFK is still in the lead.
    Last edited by Captain Adverse; 08-17-13 at 10:51 PM.
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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    If JFK had filled out his term with the promise he had thus showed, he would have been reelected and I believe the USA would be a much better country today. With so little time in office, and the tragedy of his assassination, I couldn't really vote for him.

    I had no major problems with Reagan or Bush Sr., but frankly Reagan started the whole deregulation thing and wiped out protections on the use of public funds (by cities, counties, states, etc.) which, being in public finance at the time, I knew would lead to public entities flinging taxpayer money into junk bonds, leading to massive bankruptcy and loss of public funds, which it did, and deregulation in the banking/finance industry would lead to... well, we've seen where it led.

    That leaves me with Clinton, who had some hiccups in his administration (besides the obvious) by implementing law that has led to gigantic outsourcing of jobs that went overseas without the "good" jobs coming back. Nonetheless, he had solid foreign policy, the respect of most world leaders, effectively led the congress to balanced budgets, led NATO to finally act against the genocide in Kosovo, and maintained excellent domestic policy that resulted in prosperity here in America, and investments from abroad. I voted for Bill.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

    Right now the poll shows Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton in a dead heat. When you include character and achievements I chose Reagan. Kennedy only served 3 years. And during those three years he had complete control of the House and Senate. With a scenario like that it's pretty easy to pass some of those campaign promises. As far as character goes, he was a womanizer.
    Reagan was of good character. He proved his abilities to work with both sides of the aisle. Heck he had to because during his entire presidency he never had control of the House and 75% of the time, the Senate. Because of that a lot of compromising went on and the results of such compromising kept him from really achieving what he wanted to. One thing he really wanted to get accomplished was to shut down the Department of Education that Carter put into place.

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    Re: Who was the best president of the last ten

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    I think Reagan had only few to do with the Fall of the Iron Curtain. I'd give the many East Bloc people going on the streets to protest the credit foremost, then the Soviet leadership of Gorbachev who had the right ideals and readiness to end the Cold War.

    Reagan's arms race just helped making Gorbachev realize that the USSR wouldn't be able to compete on the long run. And yeah, he held a nice speech at the Berlin Wall, like Obama in Berlin in 2008. That's it. Reagan had only very few to do with it.
    Most definitely, I just felt that I'd give Reagan the change he deserved. There were several factors which led to the end of the soviet union, and most of them definitely come down to the individuals who put themselves out there like you said. You could even include Pope John Paul II as well as, but I do like your point towards Gorbachev and how his place in history is largely unappreciated.
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