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Thread: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    So you thought we shouldn't go after the terrorists? Wow...... I find that hard to believe.
    In many ways, both wars made the terrorist problem worse. Iraq wasn't even related to 9/11, yet it served as a melting pot for terrorists to train together, exchange ideas, get Iranian support and build terrorist networks. Iraq was a giant mistake. The Iraqi prisoner scandal was a huge boom to terrorist recruitment and fundraising.

    As for Afghanistan, it's more of the issue of how we dealt with the people we captured. GITMO has turned formerly innocent people into terrorists.
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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    "Bring it on" was probably the dumnest thing a POTUS has ever said, especially considering the enemy, the radical Muslim terrorist who insists on killing others by blowing himself up.
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    In many ways, both wars made the terrorist problem worse. Iraq wasn't even related to 9/11, yet it served as a melting pot for terrorists to train together, exchange ideas, get Iranian support and build terrorist networks. Iraq was a giant mistake. The Iraqi prisoner scandal was a huge boom to terrorist recruitment and fundraising.

    As for Afghanistan, it's more of the issue of how we dealt with the people we captured. GITMO has turned formerly innocent people into terrorists.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    "Bring it on" was probably the dumbest thing a POTUS has ever said, especially considering the enemy, the radical Muslim terrorist who insists on killing others by blowing himself up.
    Bush was never one for subtly. What is interesting is that his most subtle program next to domestic spying, drones, has had the most success.
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    Drones really cut across party lines, forming new coalitions. The new and improved NRA talk/coalition has moved the middle to the right and sucked up many Dems in Red states. Rogers appears to be one of the few normal Repups in the House, wanting Farming and transp bills.
    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Bush was never one for subtly. What is interesting is that his most subtle program next to domestic spying, drones, has had the most success.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not transitive. The best presidents were governors, but not all governors were great presidents. Trust me, I didn't have GWB in mind.

    Reagan was a governor. Nixon was a governor. Clinton was a governor. All great presidents. Carter and Dubya are exceptions to the rule.
    The Clintons were more like a team. So in a way Hilary has co-served as a five term Governor and two term President. She also has been a two term Senator and one term Secretary of State. She has the experience of running for President on her own, as well as 8 other elections. As far as experience, has there ever been someone with more? I am not a fan of hers although I am open minded to seeing if Bill will be part of policy making and if they will go smart, practical, centrist or are they going to pander to the Left's special interests.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Correction, Bush Jr for 16 years. Get it right.
    I'd kill for Bush 43 at this point...and I feel dirty for saying that.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'd kill for Bush 43 at this point...and I feel dirty for saying that.
    As you should.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    The Clintons were more like a team. So in a way Hilary has co-served as a five term Governor and two term President. She also has been a two term Senator and one term Secretary of State. She has the experience of running for President on her own, as well as 8 other elections. As far as experience, has there ever been someone with more? I am not a fan of hers although I am open minded to seeing if Bill will be part of policy making and if they will go smart, practical, centrist or are they going to pander to the Left's special interests.
    A team? Riiiight.

    If she was capable of "learning through osmosis" ala Willie, she would've shown it during her Congressional and SoS time. She clearly didn't. She was an atrocious Senator and a lackluster Secretary of State. She's trading off her name. If her name was Hillary Smith, she couldn't become mayor of Walla Walla, Washington.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    As you should.
    Well...he's still the lesser of two evils. Plus I could go hunting with the guy.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    I wonder if elected how long it will be before Bill gets caught screwing a maid or assistant

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