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Thread: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Let me rephrase the question, I know what she has done, but what has she actually accomplished. What successes during those offices? What makes people think she will be a good President. I'm not looking for a Resume' I'm looking for the substance that goes with that Resume.
    I see a sketch coming on... What did Hillary ever do for you?

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Gubernatorial experience.

    With the exception of Kennedy, all of the best presidents of recent past - IMO - have been governors, not Senators.
    W. was a governor....

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I keep seeing the talk about her running, and I see her track record of failures after failure, and I really don't know why she's such a big deal. Personally I think her ideas (her previous ones and any new cockamamie hair-brained scheme's she can come up with now) would be our ruin. What say you??
    Seems like a pretty typical politician to me.

    She wouldn't be our "downfall" any more than any other recent major politicians have been. But she probably wouldn't improve things either.

    I think you're being rather dramatic. I simply find Hillary to be unremarkable, in terms of what she is likely to do for the country.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900 View Post
    W. was a governor....
    It's not transitive. The best presidents were governors, but not all governors were great presidents. Trust me, I didn't have GWB in mind.

    Reagan was a governor. Nixon was a governor. Clinton was a governor. All great presidents. Carter and Dubya are exceptions to the rule.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    By all of the accounts I've seen, she did a good job as Secretary of State. She was also a US senator for 2 terms. What more do you want?
    For an executive position, executive experience is always a plus. She has good political connections (not the least of which is Bill Clinton), decent fund raising abilities and is not a white male so she should will do well with the demorats. If the republicants choose to run another lame RINO candidate then she will likely beat their moron too.
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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not transitive. The best presidents were governors, but not all governors were great presidents. Trust me, I didn't have GWB in mind.

    Reagan was a governor. Nixon was a governor. Clinton was a governor. All great presidents. Carter and Dubya are exceptions to the rule.
    Thanks for elaborating, I was actually wondering which governors you thought were good presidents. While I Do not agree with all of the presidents you said were good, I do think gubernatorial experience is a good thing for a candidate to have. Its experience in the executive position and such. I just don't think it has churned out as many good presidents as you do.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900 View Post
    Thanks for elaborating, I was actually wondering which governors you thought were good presidents. While I Do not agree with all of the presidents you said were good, I do think gubernatorial experience is a good thing for a candidate to have. Its experience in the executive position and such. I just don't think it has churned out as many good presidents as you do.
    Well, you're a California socialist - I'm going out on a limb that we won't agree on much...other than executive (governor) experience is much better than legislative (Senator) experience when running for the highest executive office of the land. That I agree with.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I think much if not most of the good and bad that happens on a president's watch is more a factor of he happened to be there when it happened as opposed to causing it to happen. I don't think George HW Bush is fully responsible for the emancipation of the communist eastern block. I don't think Bill Clinton is fully responsible for the economic prosperity and technology boom of the 1990s. I don't think George W Bush is fully responsible for 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina. I don't think Barrack Obama is fully responsible for the high unemployment rate, lower wages and fewer benefits for those who can get jobs.
    Ah, those are events, I'm talking policy

    Clinton -- repealed Glass-Steagall
    Bush -- Patriot Act
    Obama -- Obamacare

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    3 -- catastrophic policy failures.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It is just you
    Than all the glory is mine too, when I'm proven right.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If we survive Obama for 8 years, I don't fear Hillary one iota.

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