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Thread: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'd kill for Bush 43 at this point...and I feel dirty for saying that.
    We have Bush 43 right now.

    You want Bush 41. He was a decent president.

    Obama is Bush 43's 3rd and 4th term. People voted for change and got more of the same.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    It would be unfair to dump all the guilt on grandma Clinton. Many people are responsible.
    Make a reference to her age, very classy.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Anyone else find this extremely hysterical?

    I'm sending this to Ikari. He's going to roll.
    Why because I asked for your opinion and repeatedly get the answer to google it? Dumbest notion ever.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I think much if not most of the good and bad that happens on a president's watch is more a factor of he happened to be there when it happened as opposed to causing it to happen. I don't think George HW Bush is fully responsible for the emancipation of the communist eastern block. I don't think Bill Clinton is fully responsible for the economic prosperity and technology boom of the 1990s. I don't think George W Bush is fully responsible for 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina. I don't think Barrack Obama is fully responsible for the high unemployment rate, lower wages and fewer benefits for those who can get jobs.
    I think people just overestimate the power of the office and give POTUS way too much credit and criticism.

    I believe Pres. Obama will replace Pres. Carter as our worst POTUS when his term is finished but I don't believe all of our woes are due to him.

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I think people just overestimate the power of the office and give POTUS way too much credit and criticism.

    I believe Pres. Obama will replace Pres. Carter as our worst POTUS when his term is finished but I don't believe all of our woes are due to him.
    I do think people vest waaaay too much significance in the Presidency. Don't get me wrong, the President is a big deal but his hands are tied in a lot of ways. He has to have 2 houses of congress to agree with him on anything he wants to do. He has very little control over the economy; OPEC has more control of the US economy than the President.

    I'm not sure I'll agree if he'll replace Carter as the worst POTUS in the minds of those other than diehard conservatives. Blacks will probably think he's the greatest and his only failures were due to unprecedented opposition from the right. Women will think he saved the female gender from Taliban style policies. Hispanics will say he came to their aid when many in America hated them. Gays will say he gave them equal rights. And a lot of people will say he did more than anyone in fighting the war on terror and going after those who want to kill us. Strong conservatives on the other hand, he highhandedly destroyed the greatest country on earth.
    Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Why because I asked for your opinion and repeatedly get the answer to google it? Dumbest notion ever.
    No, because you have a long posting history of refusing to answer any questions and here you are demanding people tell you the answer. It's ironic in how your behavior switches and how you got irate at behavior you were doing yourself.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    No, because you have a long posting history of refusing to answer any questions and here you are demanding people tell you the answer. It's ironic in how your behavior switches and how you got irate at behavior you were doing yourself.
    I have never, intentionally, not answered a question, or even avoided a question. If you would like to PM one to me that I missed I will be more than happy to answer.
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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You don't think W. had those?
    Surely you jest....!
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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I have never, intentionally, not answered a question, or even avoided a question. If you would like to PM one to me that I missed I will be more than happy to answer.
    The entire evolution thread. You ran from almost EVERY rebuttal, every question and every argument.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Think Hillary Clinton Would Bring Our Ruin?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The entire evolution thread. You ran from almost EVERY rebuttal, every question and every argument.
    I told you to PM me one question I ran from, apparently you can't do that.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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