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    What about the 8-hour or more lines in precincts where they already had early voting? Are Repub states allowed to bastardize the distribution of quantity and quality of voting machines as in OH and FL and then say as in NC's new law that polls are closed, thanks for waiting, but you can't vote? You're a better man than that AP.

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    I don't believe in early voting unless there are extenuating circumstances...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    What you should do is make sure everyone has ID, then ask for it. Cart after the horse not before, is in this case.
    I really don't understand the so-called "issue" of poor people not being able to acquire IDs.

    Hear in Ontario, a photo ID card can be acquired by anyone who wants one for $35. People who don't drive or no longer drive, like seniors, like these cards. And there's nobody who can convince me that any government that wants to can't set up such a system of their own. And, likewise, nobody can convince me that anyone with the inclination to vote in an election can't be bothered or can't afford $35.

    It's a phony issue driven by those who wish to propogate political discord rather than promote sound government policy.
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    Your Governor Sandoval will never sign a drakkkonian law like this. Neither will Martinez in New Mexico. If repubs had any brains, they would have waited until Holder could not have sued them in time next year. What does it say that the VRA adopted by a 97-0 vote last time is now being filibustered? Each different Repub law is aimed at specific constituencies. Alito and Thomas taught these guys well in 2009 at the Koch conferences.
    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    This isn't one of my issues but I think there needs to be a reasonable standard so those awful Republicans don't round up a bunch of drunk Salvadorans and bus them to the polls. More seriously, I don't feel it's unreasonable to allow voter registration with a minimum of documentation. When I worked for a crisis center, we helped people to get their birth records in the (useless) hope they would then get ID and get stuff like jobs.

    I doubt voter fraud is a significant problem. Then again, I don't think having ID is all that difficult. Even for special circumstances like the very elderly, I would be fine if voter cards were issued by sworn statement with any element of substantiation.

    Now, if you're a 90 year old homeless man, you might find this challenging but then again what are the odds you feel the need to participate in the political process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What about the 8-hour or more lines in precincts where they already had early voting? Are Repub states allowed to bastardize the distribution of quantity and quality of voting machines as in OH and FL and then say as in NC's new law that polls are closed, thanks for waiting, but you can't vote? You're a better man than that AP.

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    Open more precincts for a longer period. Problem solved...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Open more precincts for a longer period. Problem solved...
    But they won't Paul. But I'll resist saying you know that and just point out what the Ohio Sec'y of state did. Their dream is to impeach the POTUS. Close Senate elections in Red/red-ruled states are the key. WV, SD, MT are gone. KY, SC and GA must hold. LA, AR, AK, NC will all be federal elections held with different state laws. I don't believe that is why Madison convened the Constitutional Convention

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    But they won't Paul. But I'll resist saying you know that and just point out what the Ohio Sec'y of state did. Their dream is to impeach the POTUS. Close Senate elections in Red/red-ruled states are the key. WV, SD, MT are gone. KY, SC and GA must hold. LA, AR, AK, NC will all be federal elections held with different state laws. I don't believe that is why Madison convened the Constitutional Convention
    As I posted earlier, there is a national voting DAY, not month. The Constitutional Convention was convened to establish a republican form of government not an oppressive federal government...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I really don't understand the so-called "issue" of poor people not being able to acquire IDs.

    Hear in Ontario, a photo ID card can be acquired by anyone who wants one for $35. People who don't drive or no longer drive, like seniors, like these cards. And there's nobody who can convince me that any government that wants to can't set up such a system of their own. And, likewise, nobody can convince me that anyone with the inclination to vote in an election can't be bothered or can't afford $35.

    It's a phony issue driven by those who wish to propogate political discord rather than promote sound government policy.
    In PA, the voter ID cards are free and they even accept nursing home IDs to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I really don't understand the so-called "issue" of poor people not being able to acquire IDs.

    Hear in Ontario, a photo ID card can be acquired by anyone who wants one for $35. People who don't drive or no longer drive, like seniors, like these cards. And there's nobody who can convince me that any government that wants to can't set up such a system of their own. And, likewise, nobody can convince me that anyone with the inclination to vote in an election can't be bothered or can't afford $35.

    It's a phony issue driven by those who wish to propogate political discord rather than promote sound government policy.
    Your post speaks for itself, and how wrong you are on this issue. Voting is free among other things. And it precedes ID issued by the government that such voting forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Your post speaks for itself, and how wrong you are on this issue. Voting is free among other things. And it precedes ID issued by the government that such voting forms.
    Of course voting is free - that statement is idiotic as a rebuttal to my comments. It's free, but it's only free to those eligible. To be eligible, you have to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Of course voting is free - that statement is idiotic as a rebuttal to my comments. It's free, but it's only free to those eligible. To be eligible, you have to prove it.
    No, you don't. You don't have to prove your rights here, they come from being born or naturalized here. If the government thinks you weren't, it is on them not you to prove you wrong. That's how our system works.

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