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Should Daycare Be Subsidized

Should Daycare Be Subsidized?

  • Yes, Should Be Fixed Price (Quebec)

    Votes: 2 5.0%
  • Yes, Means-Tested (France)

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • No, It Should Not Be Subsidized

    Votes: 30 75.0%

  • Total voters
    40
I suspect Observer isn't quite old enough to work yet.

The idea of $20,000.00 being the starting point for daycare in Canada seems preposterous to me.

It what is said in that article and I found a website that says 10,000$/year for a licensed daycare but that is for the entire province not for the city of Toronto where it probably much higher at the 20,000$/year said earlier. Another article says basic daycare costs now range from $600 a month per child to as much as $2,000.
 
It what is said in that article and I found a website that says 10,000$/year for a licensed daycare but that is for the entire province not for the city of Toronto where it probably much higher at the 20,000$/year said earlier. Another article says basic daycare costs now range from $600 a month per child to as much as $2,000.
Guess you will have to wait a few years on the Mercedes.
 
That garbage website said:
The Canadian average child care cost data comes from the information gathered from the input of users of this site. PLEASE NOTE: although we take into account responses from multiple participants to calculate the child care cost, we do not verify the daycare rates provided. For provincial daycare rates select the province on the right

Would you like to source Conservapedia next?
 
20K a year is like what? $360 a week.
I have never heard of normal daycare costing $360 a week.

It's actually closer to $400.00 a week.

And that's apparently where it starts!
 
No see that isn't an aspect anymore not even families in their late 20s with successful careers can really afford daycare. By your logic people should never have children till their late 30s when it is incredibly difficult and even then it might not be. Shouldn't we be encouraging young successful families?

When did it become the responsibility of the federal government to insure parenthood when the time was convenient? When did it become my responsibility to pay to help someone else to raise their kids?
 
When did it become the responsibility of the federal government to insure parenthood when the time was convenient? When did it become my responsibility to pay to help someone else to raise their kids?

It's beneficial for you that people have children or else the hole will just get deeper as mor people age.
 
When then they are incredibly lucky because after I think after 35 it becomes rather difficult to conceive children and at that time most people don't want to raise a newborn child. You pay for others education it's the same principle.

We pay for public education because an educated populace is a net benefit to the entire community. Cheap day care is not.
 
HUH?

The most expensive full time option on your list is $855.73/month which is almost half as expensive as what you insisted the cheapest daycare was.

It's not the best survey and like I said before that's for the entirety of Canada not cities like Toronto.
 
Like I said in the reply these are successful families in their late 20s making a fair amount of money they are not mistakes it is the time when people want children. People can't wait to their late 30s and 40s to have children.

Wanting something is not sufficient reason to have it, especially if you can't afford to have it. Just because you want a big screen TV doesn't mean you get to have one if you only earn minimum wage.

Where do you liberals get this crap?
 
We pay for public education because an educated populace is a net benefit to the entire community. Cheap day care is not.

What do you think we want those educated people for? We wnat them so they can work and having expensive daycare forces either debt, a parent top stay home, etc/ which is a place they do not benefit the community.
 
No see that isn't an aspect anymore not even families in their late 20s with successful careers can really afford daycare.?
Therefore as a nation we can afford it? Most people cannot afford it, therefore we should force government to force people to pay for it? Am I reading that right?
 
Well, of course no one wants that.

In fact, that already happens, we have welfare programs where welfare mothers get paid to take care of the children of other welfare mothers, none of whom have a job or a demonstrable need to find child care.
 
When did it become the responsibility of the federal government to insure parenthood when the time was convenient? When did it become my responsibility to pay to help someone else to raise their kids?

many folks have the same mentality in counties where the population is aging and fewer school aged kids are running around.

School funding has this same problem-
Walters, OK has to pull all sorts of tricks to try and get a school bond passed to replace ancient buses or crumbling classrooms. That is because our population isn't increasing in number but in age. No kids in school, no concern over the school.

Elgin OK is growing in number of young parents- they are expanding their schools at an amazing pace.
 
It's beneficial for you that people have children or else the hole will just get deeper as mor people age.

No it isn't.

It isn't beneficial when so much of your generation has to rely on my generation just to pay your bills.
 
Therefore as a nation we can afford it? Most people cannot afford it, therefore we should force government to force people to pay for it? Am I reading that right?

It's clearly not a very well thought out position.

:lol:
 
When 20,000$+ a year is not a big deal is when couples have very major issues with fertility and there is a fairly good chance they won't. That or spend so much money trying to get pregnant they can't afford daycare anymore.

First off, $20k is an absurd price, they should look for somewhere cheaper and/or move somewhere where it's less expensive. When my wife and I had 2 kids in day care, it cost nowhere remotely close to that. If people refuse to pay those prices, those prices will come down. That's how a free market economy works. Secondly, you act like people are entitled to breed to their heart's content. They are not. They can have as many kids as they can personally afford and if they can't afford any kids, they shouldn't have any.

This isn't that difficult, except to the mentally deficient liberal.
 
Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.
 
Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.

I think we'd rather them not have kids they cannot afford. Nice of you to conveniently overlook that option.
 
First off, $20k is an absurd price, they should look for somewhere cheaper and/or move somewhere where it's less expensive. When my wife and I had 2 kids in day care, it cost nowhere remotely close to that. If people refuse to pay those prices, those prices will come down. That's how a free market economy works. Secondly, you act like people are entitled to breed to their heart's content. They are not. They can have as many kids as they can personally afford and if they can't afford any kids, they shouldn't have any.

This isn't that difficult, except to the mentally deficient liberal.

According to him $20,000.00 is the cheapest daycare in the country.

:roll:

It only goes up from there ...
 
Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.

The one who used the word "sterilize" is you.

I like seafood, but your flavor of red herring isn't appetizing.
 
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