View Poll Results: Should Daycare Be Subsidized?

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  • Yes, Should Be Fixed Price (Quebec)

    3 5.77%
  • Yes, Means-Tested (France)

    9 17.31%
  • No, It Should Not Be Subsidized

    40 76.92%
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    How long should they wait? Till it extremely difficult to have children?
    They should wait for a time where they are financially stable. If they don't achieve that, then never.

    It's a right for someone to actually conceive and deliver a baby. However, that's as far as the right goes. They can move to some socialist nation if they think it takes a village and their money.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Why, If the Government is writing the law, why would they leave a blank check on the table.
    I imagine they're not going to just allow any price.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    How long should they wait? Till it extremely difficult to have children?
    How about until they can afford them?

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    I always envied those with many brothers and sisters and I always wanted a huge family, but I could only afford to have two children. So that was it for my family. Yesterday at the grocery, I saw a Hispanic family with six small children. Six. That, to me, is extremely irresponsible and I don't want to pay for them, particularly when I myself only had what I could afford.

    I don't understand this sort of irresponsibility. Who did they think was going to support all of those children?

    The Zimmerman juror that started whining about her decision had eight children. Who the Hell pays for all those children?
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Why, If the Government is writing the law, why would they leave a blank check on the table.
    They would probably negotiate because in Quebec if your subsidize by the govment it's guaranteed you will be full. The daycare might agree to a lower price because the government ensures customers.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    How about until they can afford them?
    When 20,000$+ a year is not a big deal is when couples have very major issues with fertility and there is a fairly good chance they won't. That or spend so much money trying to get pregnant they can't afford daycare anymore.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What will I ever do with myself if everyone else isn't paying my way?!! What in the hell is the point in moving out of your parents house if you just turn around and make the government your mommy? WTF is that about? You effectively didn't do squat.
    I don't live with my parents. I do pay my way. I don't get any special tax breaks. For me it's not about rights and more about how I want things to be. I guess I actually care about others.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    the government ensures customers.
    Christ, another socialist. I'm done trying to argue.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The couple in the article and many like them are probably engineers, accountants, etc. they make over 100,000$ but 20,000/year is still a lot of money for daycare. Subsidizing daycare is also how we encourage people to get that education to get that well-paying job.
    If the couple thinks the $20,000 expense for somebody else to care for their children is an important expense, they will spend it.

    Why would anybody help them make that decision? What is that couple doing with the other $80,000 they are making?

    You are saying people that are making $100,000 per year is not enough to live without help from the government.

    That sounds crazy to me.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If the couple thinks the $20,000 expense for somebody else to care for their children is an important expense, they will spend it.

    Why would anybody help them make that decision? What is that couple doing with the other $80,000 they are making?

    You are saying people that are making $100,000 per year is not enough to live without help from the government.

    That sounds crazy to me.
    I'd imagine that $100k is pre-tax. Post-tax they probably net like $60K. If they're in an area where daycare is $20K, then housing is probably quite expensive too.

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