Yes, Should Be Fixed Price (Quebec)
Yes, Means-Tested (France)
No, It Should Not Be Subsidized
I think people should "earn" their welfare by watching these kids at daycare centers so that other welfare parents can get their ass to work and stop using their kids, and the cost of childcare, as an excuse to not bother.
But that's just me.
It's GREAT to be me. --- "45% liberal/55% conservative"
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy" until you can find a gun.
It's time to teach people otherwise. Americans used to be more responsible. The people haven't changed, it's the government and society that has. They can change back. Liberalism is an abject failure.
So I didn't give up on our marriage and son, and am in the process of repairing her oldest who was done no favors by his father. It's progress. Last year her father lived with us for almost a year while we helped him straighten out some issues and get him on track with his health issues. He is out on his own again and taking care of his own kids (long story, second family). So it can be done. It isn't always easy, but it certainly isn't as difficult as I thought it would be either. If we looked to our families to help us when we needed help we might not have to depend on government to do it.
And we are not that special. Anyone can do this. You have to want to and have the tenacity to see it thru.
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
hah ttwtt78640 your comment reminded me of:
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
so lemme get this straight tech30528, because of this wacked out life philosophy you've got, you are not only able to take care of your own family, but the adult children of another family & (are you serious?) the father of the other family? (whew did I get that right?)
see I knew I was right, gawd only knows where things like this would lead. Before you knew it the government gravy train wouldn't have any riders. Don't tell me you go to church on Sundays too
My wife and I did (I was 35 and she was 32 when our first boy was born, I was 40 and she was 37 when our second boy was born, we're not going to have any more kids).
Almost everyone I am/we are friends with fall into that same boat.
I can count on one hand the number of couples we know who were married in their 20s, let alone having kids already.
It doesn't make any sense to me to have kids before you're ready to provide those kids with the best life possible.
Along those lines, it only makes sense to only start having kids after you've completed a graduate degree, established yourself in a career, own your home, etc... Obviously there are varriables to consider here. If you choose a career in the trades you're not going to need a Masters Degree, but you'd probably want to be in a postion where you're able to open your own business or are working in a supervisory capacity before you take the plunge where kids are concerned.
Last edited by soot; 08-13-13 at 10:57 AM.