View Poll Results: Should Daycare Be Subsidized?

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  • Yes, Should Be Fixed Price (Quebec)

    3 5.77%
  • Yes, Means-Tested (France)

    9 17.31%
  • No, It Should Not Be Subsidized

    40 76.92%
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Thread: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's nice, but we live in reality. So are you suggesting that people who have kids and can't afford daycare should just live on the streets instead of trying to better themselves?
    Then adopt their children out. Do something responsible for once.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    No, I'm suggesting they find other solutions (one parent stays at home, grandparents, ...) or wait to have kids until they can afford it. Is that such a difficult concept?
    It is if you have bought in to the current narrative that the nuclear family is outdated. There are important reasons for this structure. There is teamwork for the good of the household. One works, one can stay home. I don't even care which does what. Maybe one full time and one part time job in order to juggle childcare responsibilities. It also develops more balanced kids who are raised with a father and a mother seeing them work together for a common cause. It's all about priorities. When you have kids you are no longer the most important person in your life. You may work a job you don't especially like in order to feed your kids. Parents (not sperm donors) care more about the wellbeing of their kids than of their own. If this is a foreign concept to you then you have either bought in to the nanny state mentality, your parents have utterly failed as parents, or both.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Well that's an asinine response.
    No, it is a truthful one. People are going to be irrepsonsible, so what is your solution to that? My question stands, if you are unable or unwilling to answer it that is your problem not mine.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Then adopt their children out. Do something responsible for once.
    And who is going to pay for these places where the children are placed? Not everyone gets adopted, then what? There will STILL be subsidies needed unless you are planning on terminated children past birth that don't get adopted.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, it is a truthful one. People are going to be irrepsonsible, so what is your solution to that? My question stands, if you are unable or unwilling to answer it that is your problem not mine.
    If people are irresponsible they should bear the consequences.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Live on the streets, Iam fine with that. Lifes lessons are tough, stupid should hurt. I am not paying for YOUR mistakes and short comings.
    Great, so your solution is to increase the crime rate. Then how are you going to pay for the extra police, prisons, parol officers, etc? You have to remember that YOUR consequences for not allowing subsidies can cause even FURTHER costs later on.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    If people are irresponsible they should bear the consequences.
    And yet again, you end up increasing the crime rate. So you have MORE subsidies involved with building prisons, etc.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    In today's economic environment it is making more sense to move back toward the multi generational home. I don't mean kids sitting idle in their parent's home, I mean adult couples moving their aging parents back in with them. There are benefits all around. Grandparents make great childcare providers since they genuinely love their grandkids. Unfortunately many will not consider this because it may step on their personal space. Priorities people, PRIORITIES. Your kids are your greatest asset, and your parents hold your greatest debt. Assuming they are not like the OP they put you first so you could be who you are today. Three generations in a home works very nicely. Believe it or not, your parents may still be able to teach you a thing or two.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And yet again, you end up increasing the crime rate. So you have MORE subsidies involved with building prisons, etc.
    So I guess that a few decades ago, when there was far less daycare, almost every parent was a criminal? Yo really have some fuzzy thinking going on there.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    So I guess that a few decades ago, when there was far less daycare, almost every parent was a criminal? Yo really have some fuzzy thinking going on there.
    No, but there were a lot of single parents on welfare. The right has said that welfare shouldn't be used in this manner. So you either have subsidies for welfare, daycare or a higher crime rate.

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