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  • No, It Should Not Be Subsidized

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I agree. There should be a social recognition of the consequences and repercussions to having children. Perhaps we should have laws preventing divorce until all children have reached the age of 13; perhaps laws that require the father and mother live together and take care of their child until that age if a child is born out of wedlock...who knows? I'm no social engineer.

    I also mentioned acceptance of subsidized daycare for working poor and welfare recipients who prove they are actively seeking and obtaining work. But if you are "living the middle class lifestyle" or better? Having others raise your kids is shirking responsibility; IMO you need to do this yourself if you want any chance for them to grow up well-balanced.
    In order to accomplish what you want in the first paragraph, it will take more than laws. It will require a fundamental transformation of our entire entitlement system, and if that were done, I might not object so much to subsidized daycare...
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    ...drugs that have hundreds of billions in R&D spent on them in the states.

    Pharmaceuticals are to Canada what pirated DVDs are to China.
    Nonsense - many of those drugs are developed in Canadian facilities by Canadian researchers and scientists who happen to be working with and for multinational big pharmas. And there are several big pharmas that are based in Canada as well.

    Your problem is you think the sun rises and sets in the good old USA and nobody else exists or is capable. It's narrow, arrogant, ignorant thinking.
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nonsense - many of those drugs are developed in Canadian facilities by Canadian researchers and scientists who happen to be working with and for multinational big pharmas. And there are several big pharmas that are based in Canada as well.

    Your problem is you think the sun rises and sets in the good old USA and nobody else exists or is capable. It's narrow, arrogant, ignorant thinking.
    Where can I find out, or find a list of, which drugs were developed in Canada? I'd like to research it.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Where can I find out, or find a list of, which drugs were developed in Canada? I'd like to research it.
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Well if you've got yer kid in government run (subsidized) daycare just until you can dump him into a government run school all I can say is I hope there's a government job waiting for him when he gets out cuz that's about all he's gonna be fit for...

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Mostly. But I see merit in educating our youth.
    Day care is predominatly baby sitting.
    Grade school is different.
    If its a burden, why did you have the children. Its just one more entitlement, wic, ebt, welfare.
    WiC, EBT and Welfare..... Without these, what would happen to families who depend on them? Of course, they should get a job. But, are there/have there ever been enough jobs in America for every person of working age? They shouldn't have had kids in the first place. But what if the parents were laid off, injured or have medical probs and are unable to work after they had their kids? The private sector should help out more. Of course, but I don't think the private sector knows/cares how many people need help.

    So what would happen to these families? I think that there would be a lot of hungry, homeless families on our streets. What else might happen?

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    What would happen if people took responsibility for their lives in the (previously) richest nation on earth?
    What if all those entitlement cheques went uncashed because the recipients thought charity when taken from others at the point of a gun was wrong?
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I agree. There should be a social recognition of the consequences and repercussions to having children. Perhaps we should have laws preventing divorce until all children have reached the age of 13; perhaps laws that require the father and mother live together and take care of their child until that age if a child is born out of wedlock...who knows? I'm no social engineer.
    That is quite possibly the worst idea I have ever heard. The only thing that will lead to is major physical and emotional abuse and serious harm.
    Last edited by Carjosse; 08-13-13 at 02:57 AM.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    What would happen if people took responsibility for their lives in the (previously) richest nation on earth?
    Took responsibility for their lives.... how?

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by USNavySquid View Post
    Took responsibility for their lives.... how?
    Oh, lived within their means, worked hard, didn't have their hands out to the government for everything. You know... practiced the American dream... wouldn't that be a great thing?
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