View Poll Results: Should Daycare Be Subsidized?

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    9 17.31%
  • No, It Should Not Be Subsidized

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    No see that isn't an aspect anymore not even families in their late 20s with successful careers can really afford daycare.?
    Therefore as a nation we can afford it? Most people cannot afford it, therefore we should force government to force people to pay for it? Am I reading that right?

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by afr0byte View Post
    Well, of course no one wants that.
    In fact, that already happens, we have welfare programs where welfare mothers get paid to take care of the children of other welfare mothers, none of whom have a job or a demonstrable need to find child care.
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    When did it become the responsibility of the federal government to insure parenthood when the time was convenient? When did it become my responsibility to pay to help someone else to raise their kids?
    many folks have the same mentality in counties where the population is aging and fewer school aged kids are running around.

    School funding has this same problem-
    Walters, OK has to pull all sorts of tricks to try and get a school bond passed to replace ancient buses or crumbling classrooms. That is because our population isn't increasing in number but in age. No kids in school, no concern over the school.

    Elgin OK is growing in number of young parents- they are expanding their schools at an amazing pace.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    It's beneficial for you that people have children or else the hole will just get deeper as mor people age.
    No it isn't.

    It isn't beneficial when so much of your generation has to rely on my generation just to pay your bills.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Therefore as a nation we can afford it? Most people cannot afford it, therefore we should force government to force people to pay for it? Am I reading that right?
    It's clearly not a very well thought out position.


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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    When 20,000$+ a year is not a big deal is when couples have very major issues with fertility and there is a fairly good chance they won't. That or spend so much money trying to get pregnant they can't afford daycare anymore.
    First off, $20k is an absurd price, they should look for somewhere cheaper and/or move somewhere where it's less expensive. When my wife and I had 2 kids in day care, it cost nowhere remotely close to that. If people refuse to pay those prices, those prices will come down. That's how a free market economy works. Secondly, you act like people are entitled to breed to their heart's content. They are not. They can have as many kids as they can personally afford and if they can't afford any kids, they shouldn't have any.

    This isn't that difficult, except to the mentally deficient liberal.
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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
    Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

    I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
    Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

    I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.
    I think we'd rather them not have kids they cannot afford. Nice of you to conveniently overlook that option.

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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    First off, $20k is an absurd price, they should look for somewhere cheaper and/or move somewhere where it's less expensive. When my wife and I had 2 kids in day care, it cost nowhere remotely close to that. If people refuse to pay those prices, those prices will come down. That's how a free market economy works. Secondly, you act like people are entitled to breed to their heart's content. They are not. They can have as many kids as they can personally afford and if they can't afford any kids, they shouldn't have any.

    This isn't that difficult, except to the mentally deficient liberal.
    According to him $20,000.00 is the cheapest daycare in the country.



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    Re: Should Daycare Be Subsidized

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Apparently conservatives would prefer educated people be forced to stay at home collecting welfare than being helped back into work via subsidised daycare.
    Any good entrepeneur will tell you "you have to spend money to make money".

    I don't think the ideas of at least one libertarian in this thread that poor people should be forcibly sterilised in the name of social darwinism, is a viable option.
    The one who used the word "sterilize" is you.

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