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Thread: Bush was fair game is Obama?

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    Okay.



    Swing and a miss.

    Matthews didn't hold that opposition to Obama was racist, merely that certain comments made about Obama were racial in tone and insensitive, and that individuals who ignored the underlying racial tone of these comments were dead wrong.

    A far cry from the standard you've set up, wherein any criticism of Obama is considered racist.



    Swing and a miss, again.

    Eric Dyson held that in reference to Obama's treatment of the supreme court, use the term "bullying" to describe it was something a racist would do.

    I might not agree completely with Dyson's assessment...

    But again, it is a far cry from the standard you've set up, wherein any criticism of Obama is considered racist.



    Swing and a miss, for a third time.

    Eric Dyson characterized the GOP's blanket refusal to work with the President in any capacity as racist.

    This is again a far cry from the standard you've set up, wherein any criticism of Obama is considered racist.



    Hell, all of these are examples of where specific arguments or insults against Obama are deemed racist. Whether they are or are not can be debated, but none of them meet the standard you set forth in your opening post: That Obama is being untreated unfairly compared to Bush, and that any and all criticism of Obama were deemed racist.




    These two aren't even worth mentioning, merely a link that ask the same question you do with no substantiative evidence to support it's position and a blog.
    Several of these examples like the ones cited and it becomes clear that any criticism of Obama is indeed going to be considered racist. I mean come on; Republicans refusing to work with a Democrat is racist? Using the word "bullying" is racist? Give us a break.

    As a general rule if you have to have taken Race and Gender 101 in order to understand why something is racist then it isn't racist.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    He is but be prepared to be called raciss! by the media and other ilk.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    During the GW Bush presidency he was constantly ridiculed in the media and by private citizens. A rodeo clown wearing an Obama mask did an act that the crowd went crazy for and the media and politicians are quick to condemn. The question I pose is Obama fair game just as Bush was?
    Sure he is. Though I am always in favor of mockery and criticism within limits. We still have to maintain a modicum of respect to avoid clouding debate.
    Be skeptical of anyone who wears a political label - party or ideology - with pride. Most of our problems are because people love to "debate" (it isn't debate, but they pretend it is), but are not interested in developing solutions. Solutions require empathy, thought, and compromise, and most folks aren't interested.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosteve View Post
    NO. People that ridicule Obama are racist haters and they hate the fact that a half black man is in the "White"house.
    Well..that and that he is a clown from Chicago that golfs a lot.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Several of these examples like the ones cited and it becomes clear that any criticism of Obama is indeed going to be considered racist.
    Well no, not in the slightest. All of these are examples of specific arguments made or behavior fostered against Obama, that in a given context, is considered racist by some individual or another, and the reasoning while not always the most solid, is far away from blanket accusation of racism with no sort of logic behind the argument.

    I mean come on; Republicans refusing to work with a Democrat is racist?
    Well, I mean, if you reduce his argument to this...

    Using the word "bullying" is racist?
    Well, I mean, if you reduce his argument to this...

    Give us a break.

    As a general rule if you have to have taken Race and Gender 101 in order to understand why something is racist then it isn't racist.
    I'm sorry, is that a thing now? Race and Gender 101, a class where you have to learn how to not be an insufferable bigot?

    Me myself, I've never been referred to such a class.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    Well no, not in the slightest. All of these are examples of specific arguments made or behavior fostered against Obama, that in a given context, is considered racist by some individual or another, and the reasoning while not always the most solid, is far away from blanket accusation of racism with no sort of logic behind the argument.
    When I look at the specific examples it's hard to imagine what would not fit in the category of "racist".

    I'm sorry, is that a thing now? Race and Gender 101, a class where you have to learn how to not be an insufferable bigot?
    No, it's where you go to learn how to find racism where it doesn't exist.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    When I look at the specific examples it's hard to imagine what would not fit in the category of "racist".



    No, it's where you go to learn how to find racism where it doesn't exist.
    I absolutely agree 100% Race baiters make a living trying to convince the rest of us that racism is prevalent in our society. They spend every waking hour attempting to make white people feel guilt. Like politically correct sensitivity training. It's as if we are trying to create a society where people have a right not to be offended. There is such a thing as right and wrong and there are winners and losers and yes there is racism. But it is not as prevalent as many hyper sensitive people would have you believe.
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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Hussein doesn't have the stomach for taking criticism. It's best to just leave him to his golf game.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    When will conservatives/Republicans learn Bush isn't in office anymore? Here we are 5 years later, and they still keep bringing up Bush.

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    Re: Bush was fair game is Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Ok, the concensus so far is that King O is fair game. So put on you Obama mask and make fun of the idiot and chief.
    There's a difference between making fun of the idiot and chief and actively suggesting that he should be injured, potentially fatally in front of a public crowd at a state event.

    Learn it.

    Can you point to a single event between 2000 and 2008 where someone in front of a large crowd, at a state event actively promoted killing Bush?

    Last I checked, "Fair Game" doesn't include death threats, or incitement for assassination.

    I consider Obama to be Bush's 3rd and 4th term and Bush made a lot of mistakes, but what happened here went way too far. Now, I don't think that clown should get a lifetime ban, but it still was way past anything acceptable in civil society.
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