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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    No. That would be stupid.
    Probably, but not as stupid as boycotting the games. Besides, I'd like to see both leaders forced to deal with the reality rather than the false images they've conjured for public consumption.

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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    YES, but not beacuse of the "homosexual" issue or Mr. Snowden's presence. The US should be boycotting ALL foreign athletic events... The World Cup, The Olympics, etc... because they inspire interaction with foreign people in foreign lands.

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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    With all the controversy around a new Russian law against homosexual "propaganda", some are calling for the US to boycott the 2014 winter Olympics in Russia. I don't think we should because it just punishes the athletes that have been training and preparing their whole lives.

    What do you think?
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    1) The Olympics were supposed to be a venue for countries to put their politics aside, not force them onto others;

    2) The Olympics are so corporate that they should be ended;

    3) This is a stupid issue;

    4) Winter Olympics suck anyway. But for curling that makes me think "You know, you could maybe still be an Olympic athlete one day", I would not watch

    5) I am sure MSNBC will still gay them up just fine all on their own; and

    6) Only athletes from the states that have gay marriage should boycott. Athletes from the majority of states that have banned gay marriage should be allowed to still compete.

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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    While I would support such show of solidarity by Russian athletes, I would not recommend that coming from us or Spaniards. For the reasons mentioned in the previous post.
    You think that athletes showing solidarity with the Russian LGBT and LGBT athletes plays into the hands of propoagandists? You don't think that simply ignoring it gives Hijo de Putín a propaganda victory of even greater dimensions? "See no one cares about the queers!"

    Also, leaving any protest to the Russian athletes leaves them way out on a limb, unprotected and unsupported and just waiting for the knock on the door in the night a week or two after all the TV cameras have disappeared.

    I think that would be a very cowardly route to take.
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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    How have the Russians made it so.....they bided for the games how far out? They didn't know Gay Rights would be an issue at this time.
    Neither their bidding on the Olympics nor the acceptance of the bid had anything to do with their politicized announcement. The announcement was the political act, undertaken in order to intimidate.
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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Probably, but not as stupid as boycotting the games. Besides, I'd like to see both leaders forced to deal with the reality rather than the false images they've conjured for public consumption.
    I think you've missed my point. I oppose a boycott because it would be stupid.

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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    For those of you living under a rock: the World Championships Athletics are going on right now in Moscow and nobody there seems to have any problems. Puts all this stupid boycott-talk in a bit of perspective.

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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    With all the controversy around a new Russian law against homosexual "propaganda", some are calling for the US to boycott the 2014 winter Olympics in Russia. I don't think we should because it just punishes the athletes that have been training and preparing their whole lives.

    What do you think?
    I personally think such boycotts serve no purpose whatsoever and in many cases harm innocent young people who've worked their entire lives to get that one chance at success in their chosen sport.

    To send a message to the Russians, I'd be more inclined to have every non-athlete official representing every country be "Ru Paul" gay and flamboyant and strut around the games in full drag etc. Make Richard Simmons and Ellen Degeneres honorary coaches. In-your-face ridicule and disregard of ignorant actions in any situation is far better than avoiding the problem and letting it grow in acceptance.
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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I personally think such boycotts serve no purpose whatsoever and in many cases harm innocent young people who've worked their entire lives to get that one chance at success in their chosen sport.

    To send a message to the Russians, I'd be more inclined to have every non-athlete official representing every country be "Ru Paul" gay and flamboyant and strut around the games in full drag etc. Make Richard Simmons and Ellen Degeneres honorary coaches. In-your-face ridicule and disregard of ignorant actions in any situation is far better than avoiding the problem and letting it grow in acceptance.
    I'd make the speed-skaters, ice hockey players and bob sleighers wear the same outfits that the figure skaters have to wear. That'd gay it up a bit.
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    Re: Should the US Boycott the Russian Olympics?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You think that athletes showing solidarity with the Russian LGBT and LGBT athletes plays into the hands of propoagandists? You don't think that simply ignoring it gives Hijo de Putín a propaganda victory of even greater dimensions? "See no one cares about the queers!"

    Also, leaving any protest to the Russian athletes leaves them way out on a limb, unprotected and unsupported and just waiting for the knock on the door in the night a week or two after all the TV cameras have disappeared.

    I think that would be a very cowardly route to take.
    Putin is what he is, but a new Lenin or Stalin he is not. There will be no knocks on the door in the middle of the night. Not their style.

    To the point: Russia is not Spain, not America, not even Argentina. It is Russia. OK, I am a Pole who grew up in Russia, it was not a jar of honey, my bias is obvious. Still: I will go out on a limb here and say: If tomorrow there will be a referendum on whether to restore the Soviet-time criminalization of homosexuality, 75% of Russians will vote Yes.

    This is not a result of any propaganda effort by Putin - this is the state of mind of a great nation beaten into imbecility by its horrible history.

    Should we try to change their minds? Yes, of course. But we should understand what we are dealing with. We have an ultra-conservative (not in the American sense), bigoted mindset to begin with - greatly exacerbated by the post-imperial paranoia ("They are out to destroy what's left of our greatness").

    Americans and Europeans parading on the Russian soil in support of gay rights, of all things? In a country where nobody is sure whether they have any rights at all?

    Get real. That would be a dream-come-true for the most homophobic (among SO many other things) Commie/Fascist faction in the modern Russian politics. The folks that make Putin look like a bleeping Mahatma Gandhi.
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