View Poll Results: Is Obesity a Disability

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Unless I've missed something (I didn't read the entire thread):

    Disability:
    a physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.

    The question should be "How is Obesity NOT a disability?"
    It's self-induced and can be rectified. The more they move, the less fat they will have and the more they will be able to move. Disabilities are not due to personal habits, but physical limitations. Obesity is the result of habit.
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It's self-induced and can be rectified. The more they move, the less fat they will have and the more they will be able to move. Disabilities are not due to personal habits, but physical limitations. Obesity is the result of habit.
    Where did you see that part about habits in the definition?
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Unless I've missed something (I didn't read the entire thread):

    Disability:
    a physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.

    The question should be "How is Obesity NOT a disability?"
    If a disability can result from actions within one's control, than obesity is a disability. Since that is the new politically correct answer in today's society of blame-shifting, it is technically considered a disability which is why many people receive a check from the government because of it.

    Interesting question: Should fat people be excluded from receiving food stamps? (I mean, do they really need it?)

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It's self-induced and can be rectified. The more they move, the less fat they will have and the more they will be able to move. Disabilities are not due to personal habits, but physical limitations. Obesity is the result of habit.
    So is lung cancer due to smoking - should those people be denied disability?

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    So is lung cancer due to smoking - should those people be denied disability?
    No, lung cancer is not always due to smoking. Only about 1/3 of all smokers actually die from "smoking" related illnesses. Nicotine also has some beneficial properties, unlike obesity. Further, lung cancer is an illness, a medical condition. Obesity is not. It caused by overeating and laziness. By denying them disability and making them do something, you are actually helping them.
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    No, lung cancer is not always due to smoking. Only about 1/3 of all smokers actually die from "smoking" related illnesses. Nicotine also has some beneficial properties, unlike obesity. Further, lung cancer is an illness, a medical condition. Obesity is not. It caused by overeating and laziness. By denying them disability and making them do something, you are actually helping them.
    About 90% of lung cancers are attributable to smoking. While only about 1/3 of smokers die from lung issues, smoking also greatly increases your risk of heart disease and various cancers. Statistically, smokers liive 10 years less than non-smokers. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...smokings-toll/

    Even the obese are not that high of a statistical risk as obesity takes about 7 years off your life. Although, the extreme obese live 14 years less than those at a healthy weight. NIH study finds extreme obesity may shorten life expectancy up to 14 years
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    No, lung cancer is not always due to smoking. Only about 1/3 of all smokers actually die from "smoking" related illnesses. Nicotine also has some beneficial properties, unlike obesity. Further, lung cancer is an illness, a medical condition. Obesity is not. It caused by overeating and laziness. By denying them disability and making them do something, you are actually helping them.


    I never said that lung cancer is always due to smoking - I said 'lung cancer due to smoking', meaning those cases where it is from smoking - approx. 90% of cases are. BTW, not all cases of obesity are due to over-eating.

    Fat people are at lower risk for certain cancers, so it could be said it has some beneficial properties.
    Last edited by Scrabaholic; 08-28-14 at 07:54 PM.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    So is lung cancer due to smoking - should those people be denied disability?
    People who continually repeat destructive behaviors which result in health problems should not expect society to foot the bill.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    It's not a disability. It's a cultural phenomena that people either see as acceptable or not.



    To verify this sometime, go to what is deemed "A health progressive city or area". Fit young people are everywhere. Fit middle aged people are everywhere. Fit elderly people are everywhere.



    Then go to what is deemed "Everyday Americana". Basically, walk into a walmart. Fat young people are everywhere. Fat middle aged people are everywhere. Very fat elderly people are everywhere.



    = It's cultural and racial. In other words it's basically a mental decision induced early on by culture taught from a young age.

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