View Poll Results: Is Obesity a Disability

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    yes and learning to cheat it takes a huge effort
    The efforts to hide alcohol and drug addictions take huge efforts too. And it's still common.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    Not to mention how our society encourages it unlike when I was young everything now has apparently doubled in size. Sometimes when we eat out we will split an entree and an appetizer, it's a lot of food. That is not the norm. Most would have an appetizer and the entree and dessert. The likelihood of downing more calories than one needs in the whole day in one meal is probable. Do that twice a day and morbid obesity is almost a given.
    Yes, I am part of the generation that was always told...even forced....to 'clean their plates.' American portions are huge compared with other countries.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The efforts to hide alcohol and drug addictions take huge efforts too. And it's still common.
    quite right....in order to expand the stomach after gastric surgery takes a long time and much pain, it must be done little by little as the stomach can only hold an ounce or so, yet the quest for food makes them do it

    this would say to me that it is not merely physical and that we do not understand obesity triggers yet

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Endorphins don't mean that you have no self-control. Runners release endorphins too. Virtually anyone who will exert the self-control to limit their caloric intake on a regular basis, will lose weight.
    Yes but those endorphins can be addicting.

    They say that chocolate releases endorphins.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes, I am part of the generation that was always told...even forced....to 'clean their plates.' American portions are huge compared with other countries.
    same with Canadian portion sizes...in fact I know of someone who wanted to move to Europe and would not because she said she stands out too much in a crowd due to her weight, she is not even close to obese

    European portions are much smaller than ours and often higher in fat yet they remain small...all meals have vegetables and frequently wine.

    We have to learn to ramp up the taste in our food with spices instead of salt and whatever else they throw into our food.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    quite right....in order to expand the stomach after gastric surgery takes a long time and much pain, it must be done little by little as the stomach can only hold an ounce or so, yet the quest for food makes them do it

    this would say to me that it is not merely physical and that we do not understand obesity triggers yet
    IMO the act of eating also needs to be replaced, not just the calories reduced.

    Just like smoking while drinking....people that quit dont know what to do with themselves in some social situations without smoking. Or drinking. Or both!
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    same with Canadian portion sizes...in fact I know of someone who wanted to move to Europe and would not because she said she stands out too much in a crowd due to her weight, she is not even close to obese

    European portions are much smaller than ours and often higher in fat yet they remain small...all meals have vegetables and frequently wine.

    We have to learn to ramp up the taste in our food with spices instead of salt and whatever else they throw into our food.
    Just go to the Canadian National Parks like Banff and Jasper: there are Europeans all over and they are thinner, ALL wear walking shoes, and walk & bike everywhere while many Americans go looking for shuttles and parking spots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Kind of a tough call, this poll.

    Obesity can be disabling, but isn't immediately disabling as it's clinically defined.

    I'd probably qualify as morbidly obese (~320lbs) but I wouldn't call myself disabled. I might not be running a marathon anytime soon, but I can certain go shopping without needing the handicap spot. I even appreciate the occasional requirement to walk a distance, since I generally lack the motivation to go out and walk by choice (as it leads to several forms of pain...)

    As to why I'm personally obese, that's the annoying thing.
    People here say it's all about the calories but it's not. On a normal day I eat under 2000 calories; I don't actually eat a lot of food. According to the calculators I should be losing weight at anything under 3200! But I don't.

    My biggest problem is my sedentary lifestyle. I work from my computer, I hobby from my computer, I game from my computer.

    If I manage to get to the gym on a regular basis I do begin to lose weight and I bulk up pretty quickly, but one cold or week-long back pain and I've lost all momentum I'd gained and it's months before I get back into the swing of things.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Coming in late and posting blind.

    Obesity is usually a symptom of something. It can be a symptom of overeating and/or being lazy which arent disabilies. It can be a symptom of something really wrong with a person, which would be a disability. If a person gets so obese they cant function normally, at that point it can be a disability to the point that they need help and special considerations to get back in shape and without these considerations they couldnt function anymore.

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    Re: Is Obesity a disability?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~SAL View Post
    It's a disability once it interferes with their ability to leave their home and support themselves/family financially. I worked with a girl who was extremely large and she married a guy who was extremely large. Both of them worked every day and made a good income. She did suffer from challenges created by her extra 200 lbs such as leg chafing and her shoes never fit properly because of the need to buy shoes in a larger size due to the extra fat on her foot.

    She is the only person I knew personally that overweight.

    She was molested at a young age repeatedly by a babysitter. She maintains that contributed to her need to constantly eat (extra padding and protection) I think it's possible.

    It's a hard fight. She got a lap band placed and that worked for a while. Then her weight shot up again. The key she found that worked for her was bulimia. She is still what I would think of as quite big but nothing like she was. However if she does not stop the bulimia it may well kill her.

    Sad but true.
    I know a girl who was gang raped by four men, tortured, and also passed around to a dozen people at a party at the age of eleven. She is not overweight.

    Is obesity a disability? Technically, it fits the definition. It interferes with the ability to earn income and to support one's self, and it creates or exacerbates health problems. The real question is: is obesity a preventable disability? (Yes, for the most part). And if so, how should people with this disability be treated?

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