View Poll Results: Should we, American's, have private electronic communications?

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Thread: Should American's have private electronic communications?

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    I didn't agree with Government surveillance under Bush....and I don't agree with it under Obama.
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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Then they will do what they are already doing--letting the British who are not subject to US law do the spying and then give it to the US government. There is no way you are going to win this battle unless you disconnect from society, deal only in cash, and live in a tent in the woods.
    ...and there will probably be a tracking chip in the tent fabric.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    ...and there will probably be a tracking chip in the tent fabric.

    Nope they will just drone all the tents that stay in the same place too long to be safe

    Attorney-Client, Doctor-Patient, and Clergy-Priest privileges are about the only ones that are somewhat sacrosanct. There is no explicit right to speak in privilege with other people in the Constitution.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Snowden’s e-mail provider is closing, cannot legally say why

    Should there be electronic communications that are beyond the governments reach?
    Yes. There is that expectation with regular postal mail, and there is no practical reason why we shouldn't have that expectation with any other form of communication. The government's position that there is no expectation of privacy with email and phone calls is entirely invented and self serving.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    This scandal will be the deathblow to cloud services. That companies are not fighting it will cost them dearly in the long run.
    The only thing I have in the cloud is my music, so the government is free to judge my crappy listening tastes.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The only thing I have in the cloud is my music, so the government is free to judge my crappy listening tastes.
    Well your unique appreciation for Hanson not withstanding, you are probably not one of the ones that they hope will make their enterprise profitable. They want the "virtual office" business so people like doctors and lawyers do all their stuff via a cloud interface like scheduling, records, client databases, file storage, billing, and receipts, inventory, and payroll/banking, all for a nice little monthly fee and per user fees for employees ( and they can hold your business completely hostage if you don't pay your bill and forgot to keep back ups). I looked at one of these one time. Besides the fact that I think a professional is opening themselves up to massive liability putting confidential information in a cloud, it was something like $2000 per year and then $70 bucks per month per user. I just don't see it being worth it.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    No. If you want privacy in your correspondence then learn how to write, as in a f*cking letter.

    Oh. Wait. Our wonderful educational system is throwing handwriting out the f*cking window.

    Bet your ass the top-scoring East Asian educational systems aren't doing that!

    Yeah, I know- it's cursive we here in the brilliant US are deep-sixing, but printing can't be far behind, can it?

    And OP will you please, pretty please, pretty pretty please learn when and when not to use a goddam apostrophe!!!

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