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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    In the post 9/11 world I think some reasonable middle ground on privacy can be found. Prior court approval? Destruction of data after target is deemed not to be a threat? Full disclosure to the target once the investigation is closed?

    Btw: I'm am just as concerned if not more concerned over private corporations maintaining personal data on Americans than I am of the government doing so.
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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Internet privacy is a laughable pipe dream. If you ever thought your information was safe from prying eyes, you're wrong. Even before the government got heavily involved, prying eyes were there.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Internet privacy is a laughable pipe dream. If you ever thought your information was safe from prying eyes, you're wrong. Even before the government got heavily involved, prying eyes were there.
    Agreed. I think the best we can do is to endeavor to avoid being low hanging fruit and to restrict how the govenment and business may use the information.

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    Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Internet privacy is a laughable pipe dream. If you ever thought your information was safe from prying eyes, you're wrong. Even before the government got heavily involved, prying eyes were there.
    Yes, but there's a vast difference between the damage a lone hacker can do against a person and what can be accomplished by wholesale capture of all information in all sources compiled into databases on servers where that information can be processed for future use.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, but there's a vast difference between the damage a lone hacker can do against a person and what can be accomplished by wholesale capture of all information in all sources compiled into databases on servers where that information can be processed for future use.
    Lone hackers aren't even a blip on the map. I'm talking about the banks, the Forbes 500s, The AT&T's and the Verizon's. The people who own and operate the massive server farms your data gets transferred through every day.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Lone hackers aren't even a blip on the map. I'm talking about the banks, the Forbes 500s, The AT&T's and the Verizon's. The people who own and operate the massive server farms your data gets transferred through every day.
    Ya, exactly... I believe it was the 1996 telecommunications act that legislated this type of data gathering. It's at the point now where it's collecting all data from everyone, everywhere, all the time...

    Well, people are starting to see the cage they are building around society...

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, exactly... I believe it was the 1996 telecommunications act that legislated this type of data gathering. It's at the point now where it's collecting all data from everyone, everywhere, all the time...

    Well, people are starting to see the cage they are building around society...
    That cage was built a long time ago. Data gathering is just an addition to it.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    I do not see it concerned to the government.
    It is impossible to provide you such technology and keep secret everything you do with it.

    Once i had a friend who worked for Vodafone on the IT department.
    He used to help me many times by providing information regarding the "Unknown number" calls i received or the person's name of a specific number which was unknown for me.

    If the govern will not do it, someone else will do it as long as you are proving information to many hands.
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    Re: Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Yes of course. The government expects and anticipates private communications so they should treat people the way they want to be treated.

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    Should American's have private electronic communications?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yes of course. The government expects and anticipates private communications so they should treat people the way they want to be treated.
    Not in a tiered system it doesn't work like that... If you know the right people you can exempt yourself from "common" rules.

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