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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    It seems to me that if a woman believes she has been raped, then the proper action would be to file an immediate police report. NOT to the "campus police" but with the REAL police for that local area. I would have also thought that most young women brought up today would know that already.

    Problem is, at times such an accusation is based upon circumstances exactly as you describe; OR sometimes they are a reaction several days after the fact to a young man not returning any further interest in the young lady and so she reports him.

    Again, if she believes she was truly raped, then contact the local police or sheriff and take it from there.
    It appears that many institutions are most interested in covering up rape accusations than enforcing the law. Which is why it is best to contact the local police, not the campus or military police.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    such as?
    I consider using violence or the threat of violence to have sex with a woman worse than having sex with a woman who is too drunk to legally consent.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I consider using violence or the threat of violence to have sex with a woman worse than having sex with a woman who is too drunk to legally consent.
    It's all rape though.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    For some reason I am thinking the words the university is using (Non-Consensual sex) is misleading, otherwise it would just be called rape. I would be curious what is considered non consensual sex. Interesting that people are jumping to the conclusion that these were rapes though.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Can the authorities not jail them for a lot of year so that they will not be able to attend that school in the (say) next 10 years?
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Yale’s standard of consent is extremely rigorous (Yale requires clear and unambiguous consent at every stage of a sexual encounter), but even with the involvement of an independent fact-finder, it is often difficult to ascertain the circumstances of a complaint beyond what the complainant and the respondent report. As I know from my prior experience as dean of Yale College, in some cases, all parties may agree on what words were spoken but disagree on whether those words constituted clear consent. In many cases, the complainant and respondent come to altogether different understandings of what transpired. In too many cases, excessive alcohol consumption blurs memory.
    Yale Prez Wants Definition of ‘Nonconsensual Sex’ | Capitol Watch

    Just like every university across the country, there is a war on males. Which is one of the reasons fewer and fewer men are attending college. Notice that they have what basically ends up being nearly a written contract a male must get from a female student to legally have sex with her or else he is probably raping her. At least that is what it seems by the above statement. It also seems that what many males have been charged with as of late has such a vague and open interpretation that the even the president is calling saying that he can't define what it is.

    Basically, if you are a young male, you are under attack. If you want to attain an education, better not even think about having sex with a female your going to school with. Better to be safe then sorry and focus on your education then get your balls in a sling like many of these other poor guys have. There are rapists out there that really do deserve jail time, but it seems they have widened the definition of what constitutes rape so far that it is beginning to ruin a lot of young men.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    in general the answer is no not all non-consensual sex is rape

    like everything it depends on the circumstances.


    one time my girlfriend was mad at me and she was drunk, we were having an argument and she specifically told me that were were not having sex when we got home and she said dont go "boyfriend molesting" me after i pass out either lol

    well after she passed out i boyfriend molested her lol she wasnt unconscious just in a drinking haze lol

    the next morning she wakes up and shes naked and shes like "hey i told you we weren't having sex!"

    i responded "well your cupcake disagreed with you, she wanted me and she squirted everywhere so you must of liked it!"

    she giggled and said "your a jerk", then we had more sex.

    anyway i factually participated in non-consensual sex, ask the girl if she thinks im a rapist, shell gladly tell you no.

    BUT my story has nothing to do with the story in the OP, im just pointing out that the answer to the poll question is no and it is in fact circumstantial.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    in general the answer is no not all non-consensual sex is rape

    like everything it depends on the circumstances.


    one time my girlfriend was mad at me and she was drunk, we were having an argument and she specifically told me that were were not having sex when we got home and she said dont go "boyfriend molesting" me after i pass out either lol

    well after she passed out i boyfriend molested her lol she wasnt unconscious just in a drinking haze lol

    the next morning she wakes up and shes naked and shes like "hey i told you we weren't having sex!"

    i responded "well your cupcake disagreed with you, she wanted me and she squirted everywhere so you must of liked it!"

    she giggled and said "your a jerk", then we had more sex.

    anyway i factually participated in non-consensual sex, ask the girl if she thinks im a rapist, shell gladly tell you no.

    BUT my story has nothing to do with the story in the OP, im just pointing out that the answer to the poll question is no and it is in fact circumstantial.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    May I hold your hand? Yes

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    May I...etc, etc, etc

    Oh, and be sure to video the whole thing and test her for alcohol and drugs

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It's all rape though.
    NO
    Things are far more complicated than that.
    We are dealing with humans, not machines
    Emotions matter, even rule the day.
    We just have to figure out a better way of judging situations..
    And, as is well known, or should be, rape is NOT just plain sex, its violence..
    IMO, a big difference.

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