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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Yet again, you refuse to answer questions about specifics. It's getting tiresome and irritating.

    Answer the questions that have been posed to you multiple times.

    Not one single person here is saying rape is okay. Not one.

    The question completely revolves around what defines rape, and when.

    As I see it, your definition of rape is when-ever someone says they've been raped.
    Based on that, you'd gladly sentence anyone accused of rape to prison or even death without benefit of trial.
    Automatically guilty of all charges. Period.

    In your eyes any human that says they've been raped is telling the truth, and any human that says such a claim is not true is a lying feces filled scum of an animal and deserves no sympathy or even a day in court.

    Stop avoiding any and all questions regarding your previous statements, and stop trying to deflect the conversation towards your absurd and asinine twists around what other people are trying to say.

    Are you going to answer our questions or not?

    If my wife and I are both drunk, and we have sex, who's the rapist and who's the victim of rape?
    Who gets charged with what?

    If I've been drunk and my wife hasn't, and we've had sex, did she rape me?
    What charges should be levied against her?
    Sometimes one of the most honest things a person can say is, "I don't know." My honesty offends you. You are looking for a true/false answer to an essay question--a futile effort.

    Logic and reason alone must answer your questions, not casual dismissal of a serious problem enabled by our patriarchal culture.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Sometimes one of the most honest things a person can say is, "I don't know." My honesty offends you. You are looking for a true/false answer to an essay question--a futile effort.

    Logic and reason alone must answer your questions, not casual dismissal of a serious problem enabled by our patriarchal culture.
    So your answer is:

    No - I'm not going to answer your questions or anyone else who challenges what I've posted.

    I'm just going to make blind sweeping statements and judge what others post, but I'm not going to respond to questions.

    Thanks - I'll stop wasting my time with you.
    You might want to question why you've joined a debate forum though.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So your answer is:




    Thanks - I'll stop wasting my time with you.
    You might want to question why you've joined a debate forum though.
    I accept your surrender.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Imagine all the things you would be able to get out of if the simple fact that you were drunk meant you couldn't be held accountable for your actions.

    For one thing, you couldn't be charged with DUI.

    You could cheat on your spouse then claim you were raped because for god damned sake you were drunk.
    You weren't accountable for your actions.

    The list could get pretty long here....
    And imagine all the things that you could get away with if you could threaten a person with charging them with rape after they slept with you and you were drinking just a little bit.

    This is not the same situation at all as drunk driving. As I stated in a previous post, who determines where drunk is legally when talking about either party in a rape accusation where one claims they were too drunk to consent? Do they have to provide a blood sample or urine sample or at least the certified results of a breathalyzer? What do you do if both were drunk? Who gets the responsibility for being the perpetrator and who gets to play the victim? Always the woman? Why?
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    16 pages and the fact remains that not all non-consensual sex is rape
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    16 pages and the position remains that not all non-consensual sex is rape
    FIFY. The mutually-drunk dilemma aside, can you give me another example of when your position holds?
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    FIFY. The mutually-drunk dilemma aside, can you give me another example of when your position holds?
    you fixed nothing my statement is a fact, lket me know when its not or when you can prove otherwise lol
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    FIFY. The mutually-drunk dilemma aside, can you give me another example of when your position holds?
    The mutually drunk "dilemma" is the thing in question here. It is the issue since that is what the dean says was involved in the majority of the cases, if not all.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The mutually drunk "dilemma" is the thing in question here. It is the issue since that is what the dean says was involved in the majority of the cases, if not all.
    I just reread the OP and did not see a single mention in the article of alcohol or inebriation. Instead, I saw allegations of a continued culture of letting rapists off with a slap on the wrist.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you fixed nothing my statement is a fact, lket me know when its not or when you can prove otherwise lol
    That's not how it works. You reinforced each other. You did not convince me. I'm open to evidence, but the burden will be on you to change my mind.
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