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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! This is really funny! So what would you suggest? That both parties get arrested for raping each other while drunk? Ridiculous!

    What the heck difference does the sexual orientation of the people involved matter?
    I intentionally left the question open. All I said was, neither party is capable of giving consent. I honestly have no clue how the law should proceed from there.

    Any route that is chosen leads to trouble. Let them both off the hook? Great, all a man needs to do to rape a drunk woman is get toasted himself. Punish the man? Okay, so the standard holds against him but not her. Punish them both? What is this, the Dark Ages?
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I intentionally left the question open. All I said was, neither party is capable of giving consent. I honestly have no clue how the law should proceed from there.

    Any route that is chosen leads to trouble. Let them both off the hook? Great, all a man needs to do to rape a drunk woman is get toasted himself. Punish the man? Okay, so the standard holds against him but not her. Punish them both? What is this, the Dark Ages?
    You think only men seduce drunk women? Women have been known to seduce drunk men into bed too. Would you think the woman should be charged with rape in such instances?

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You think only men seduce drunk women? Women have been known to seduce drunk men into bed too. Would you think the woman should be charged with rape in such instances?
    I wasn't aware that the number of female rapists was anywhere near the number of male rapists.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I wasn't aware that the number of female rapists was anywhere near the number of male rapists.
    Does that really matter?

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Does that really matter?
    In context, yeah, it does.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    In context, yeah, it does.
    No, it doesn't. Rape is rape. Babies don't get raped "often" either, doesn't make it any less of a horrendous crime though.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    When people try to make every situation nothing more than black and white they become very dangerous.

    Same kind of people suspend children from school for having a pop tart that "resembles" a gun.

    It's just crazy.

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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr X View Post
    Sorry, you're wrong.
    1.)The legal definition of rape is non-consensual sex.
    2.) Violence is not a requirement for it to be classed as rape.
    1.) false
    2.) true
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    When people try to make every situation nothing more than black and white they become very dangerous.

    Same kind of people suspend children from school for having a pop tart that "resembles" a gun.

    It's just crazy.
    So you believe that some rape is okay?

    If you find the question absurd, then consider that I have the same reaction to your continual misrepresentation of my position.
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    Re: Non consentual sex is not rape

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    So you believe that some rape is okay?

    If you find the question absurd, then consider that I have the same reaction to your continual misrepresentation of my position.
    You still have not addressed the question as to what you would like to see happen if both parties are drunk.

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