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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    In the early years, it provided an incentive to candidates to visit different states during their campaign and attempt to address their issues accordingly.

    Now, thanks to the effectiveness of voter sampling and the resultant polls, all the electoral college seems to ensure is that they will spend lots of time in Ohio.

    It is an anacronism that has outlived its usefulness, especially as it gives the voters of the less populous states more voting clout per capita than it does the larger.
    I'm not so sure it does that. More populous states have more delegates to balance it out. Obama won relatively few states in number, but since he won most of the big prizes he still won the election. He didn't need many of the smaller states and thus pretty much ignored them.
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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm not so sure it does that. More populous states have more delegates to balance it out. Obama won relatively few states in number, but since he won most of the big prizes he still won the election. He didn't need many of the smaller states and thus pretty much ignored them.
    You need to do the math, dood.

    Wyoming has 576,000 people yet has 3 eletoral votes.

    California has 38 million and has 55.

    I would be most happy to compute it for you if you need.
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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You need to do the math, dood.

    Wyoming has 576,000 people yet has 3 eletoral votes.

    California has 38 million and has 55.

    I would be most happy to compute it for you if you need.
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    Re: The electoral college

    The electoral college would be fine if it wasn't implemented as winner-takes-all as is the case in most states. Instead of insuring that sparsely populated regions aren't ignored, instead we have huge swaths of the country that are ignored because a small majority of their population happens to be safely for one or the other party.

    Personally I'd like to see more, many more, candidates and have the ability to rank them. Let the one with the best overall ranking be President.
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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The electoral college would be fine if it wasn't implemented as winner-takes-all as is the case in most states. Instead of insuring that sparsely populated regions aren't ignored, instead we have huge swaths of the country that are ignored because a small majority of their population happens to be safely for one or the other party.

    Personally I'd like to see more, many more, candidates and have the ability to rank them. Let the one with the best overall ranking be President.
    Yeah, big cities sway outcomes. Which sucks. But that's far from the worst big cities do to our nation.

    If there were to be any change at all, I'd like to see:

    1. Electoral votes given based on %'s of voting, no winner takes all.
    2. All parties included, and if the 'winner' doesn't get more than 50%, run off, dropping bottom candidates, repeat as needed.
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    Re: The electoral college

    This thread misses the point. When specific areas can be so precisely demographically predicted, perhaps that is the real issue.

    Someone complaining that their vote doesn't matter because everyone else in their state votes the other way, or that their vote doesn't count as much as someone in another state is pointless.

    I have no issues with states determining their own method but the method where electoral votes are pledged to the person who won the popular vote is by far the worst alternative. If my state goes for candidate A but because of that pledge, the states electors go to candidate B, then my voice truly is not being heard--and neither is the voice of anyone in my state.

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    Re: The electoral college

    The electoral college is a mess. With 20-25% of the population vote you can get elected. It's BS.

    And no, it doesn't 'protect' small states. That's why most of the states are ignored and the only ones who do get attention are 'unsafe' ones or the ones where they can get the money in fundraisers. It's a stupid, stupid system.

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    The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The electoral college is a mess. With 20-25% of the population you can get elected. It's BS.
    Heck, with 20 votes you can be elected president. Any more silly scenarios?
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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Heck, with 20 votes you can be elected president. Any more silly scenarios?
    I updated my comment.

    And I don't understand your comment.

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    Re: The electoral college

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    In the early years, it provided an incentive to candidates to visit different states during their campaign and attempt to address their issues accordingly.

    Now, thanks to the effectiveness of voter sampling and the resultant polls, all the electoral college seems to ensure is that they will spend lots of time in Ohio.

    It is an anacronism that has outlived its usefulness, especially as it gives the voters of the less populous states more voting clout per capita than it does the larger.
    You forgot Florida. Every 4 years we get inundated with presidential, and hopeful presidential visits here on the I-4 corridor* (the rest of the state not so much, unless it is blue to the south or red to the north for fundraising purposes)

    *as an fyi for those who do not know this is the highway that runs between Tampa and Orlando
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