View Poll Results: Who is on the run in war with Al Qaeda

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Losing side? What do they have to lose? They can do this for eternity, since it is an Eternal Struggle. It's the West that wants peace and quiet, so it can go back to making money and turning the world into one big parking lot.
    Yes, far better we all adopt the life style of the terrorists. Mud huts and caves.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Did you happen to hear Obama on Letterman last night TNE? If you caught any of it or see any of it. Let me know if that sounds like a Leader to you.
    I have consistantly criticized Obama as not being a good leader, so why would I watch him on Letterman. Yes, there are some things he does that I agree with such as closing the embacies (since we aren't going to arm them), but don't mistake that for me thinking he is a good president or leader.

    I happen to think this country is screwed unless it gets off the Dem/Rep train.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    I honestly can't believe someone would be so stupid as to make one of the poll options "America is on the run."
    "Oh" ..... haven't figure out who has control of the situation yet, huh?

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    Re: America playing defense

    Obviously you are not familiar with thecreator of the poll.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I have consistantly criticized Obama as not being a good leader, so why would I watch him on Letterman. Yes, there are some things he does that I agree with such as closing the embacies (since we aren't going to arm them), but don't mistake that for me thinking he is a good president or leader.

    I happen to think this country is screwed unless it gets off the Dem/Rep train.
    And onto the Anarchist/Libertarian train? No thanks. I leave that crap to mediocre authors.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
    We've ALWAYS been playing defense. What the hell do you think the Patriot Act, and TSA, and NSA surveillance is all about?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And onto the Anarchist/Libertarian train? No thanks. I leave that crap to mediocre authors.
    No worries, you have the Dem/Rep crap that is bankrupting this country.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I have consistantly criticized Obama as not being a good leader, so why would I watch him on Letterman. Yes, there are some things he does that I agree with such as closing the embacies (since we aren't going to arm them), but don't mistake that for me thinking he is a good president or leader.

    I happen to think this country is screwed unless it gets off the Dem/Rep train.
    Well I agree with you there.....once the decision was made by Team Obama not to Secure the Embassies. We are left with no other option as to dealing with the matter, in the way they have decided. Which was close down for Business. Close some until this Sat. Issue the Global Travel Alert and keep it on until the end of the Month. Giving AQ all kinds of timelines. Now with reduce staff too.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
    If i told you once i told you a Bazzillion times- don't exaggerate!

    ONE Embassy was evacuated, so the tail tucking crap is uncalled for. After Benghazi I'd think most Americans would rather we temporarily close 19 Embassies than have even one hair on an Ambassador's head be moved out of place.

    It runs in cycles, al-Queera has been planning this for years and is attempting a TET style strike- what will be telling is how many attacks than can do on US facilities and at what cost as already those much criticized Drone strikes are attacking targets in Yemen which is the new hot bed.

    The prison breaks are troubling but not any real indicator of al-Queera strength as much as Sunni/Shiite hatred. You did read where all the Shiite prisoners were killed in one of the breaks. Now 'all over the arab world' again- (you SURE love typing that) I read Libya, Iraq, and Pakistan and by far a bigger indicator of poor/corrupt government than strong al-Queera....

    You might want to look up the word decimated- it doesn't mean defunct.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Did you happen to hear Obama on Letterman last night TNE?
    BTW, I forgot to add more on this. I think it's incredibly unprofessional for any sitting president to appear on anything dealing with T.V. except formal functions and White House press. I think this whole "talk-show" or "partisan radio" is extremely of poor taste for the president to take part in no matter who the president is.

    To me it makes the President look no more statesman like than someone on "American Idol". I guess that's what America has turned into, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

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