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Thread: America playing defense

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Tell me how it looks for the US to close down All our Embassies all throughout the Middle East and Africa? Does this make us look strong or that we are holding our own against these people?
    My guess is the threat was against U.S. embacies as a whole, not specific ones. Therefore, any embacy is a target and since there is no way to harden all of them (the government simply won't do that) they should be closed as they are.

    Tell me how would it look if Al-Q were to attack another embacy and inflict loss of lives again for the U.S.?

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Like I said, I'm for either having them armed to the teeth or gone.
    Go with gone. Armed to the teeth is entirely pointless.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My guess is the threat was against U.S. embacies as a whole, not specific ones. Therefore, any embacy is a target and since there is no way to harden all of them (the government simply won't do that) they should be closed as they are.

    Tell me how would it look if Al-Q were to attack another embacy and inflict loss of lives again for the U.S.?
    Well.....if we go by what they are calling the Chatter. The know for sure that the communication was to AQ in Yemen with the back and forth calls. Hence all the Drone attacks we have hit them with in the last 2 days. Which in return they shot down a helicopter. So we know where the Sweet Center of the Fig Newton is at the moment.

    Truly it is damn if you do or damn if you don't. Due to the way we are fighting this alleged war on terror. Course with doing what you stated. We also could have sent out some Daniel Boone missions in several Countries. Killing any AQ ops and their likes. Which should also include any MB as well as any Sunni and Shia Clerics. Which even if they are not Senior Ops AQ.....say just their followers. Then we take them down. Like in each of those Countries they are in. Strike all at once. So all AQ can do is stand there with their mouths open.

    Do you think that makes a Point to AQ and their Pals.

    Now.....tell me what it will look like should we get hit or our people get taken. After closing All these Embassies?

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....if we go by what they are calling the Chatter. The know for sure that the communication was to AQ in Yemen with the back and forth calls. Hence all the Drone attacks we have hit them with in the last 2 days. Which in return they shot down a helicopter. So we know where the Sweet Center of the Fig Newton is at the moment.
    Not necessarily the sweet spot though, OBL was giving orders from Pakistan yet it's clear Yemen and Africa are hot spots.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Truly it is damn if you do or damn if you don't. Due to the way we are fighting this alleged war on terror. Course with doing what you stated. We also could have sent out some Daniel Boone missions in several Countries. Killing any AQ ops and their likes. Which should also include any MB as well as any Sunni and Shia Clerics. Which even if they are not Senior Ops AQ.....say just their followers. Then we take them down. Like in each of those Countries they are in. Strike all at once. So all AQ can do is stand there with their mouths open.

    Do you think that makes a Point to AQ and their Pals.

    Now.....tell me what it will look like should we get hit or our people get taken. After closing All these Embassies?
    My point was we have seen the trouble hitting an embacy does in regards to blaming Obama so this time they are going a different route and closing them. My idea would be to close them permanently, we don't need embacies in political and militant hot spots.

    However, we can go back and forth on the what-ifs, but we do know what happens when an embacy gets hit.

    Only time will tell if any of the other what-ifs actually happen.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
    This is where these sorts of analogies become ludicrous. 'Tail between our legs' what are you talking about? We obviously intercepted a severe threat and have acted accordingly. Should we have let a few embassies get blown up to show how bold we are? Moreover barring the deployment of troops to the countries in question we cannot exactly claim responsibility for the security of their prisons. I'm extremely critical of the President's foreign policy but I don't see how anyone could genuinely critique this reaction without knowing much more.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not necessarily the sweet spot though, OBL was giving orders from Pakistan yet it's clear Yemen and Africa are hot spots.



    My point was we have seen the trouble hitting an embacy does in regards to blaming Obama so this time they are going a different route and closing them. My idea would be to close them permanently, we don't need embacies in political and militant hot spots.

    However, we can go back and forth on the what-ifs, but we do know what happens when an embacy gets hit.

    Only time will tell if any of the other what-ifs actually happen.
    Well none can say for certain that anything will go down. Not even AQ. Which that would be on the What Ifs. Course we are now stuck in this exact situation now as to What If.

    Did you happen to hear Obama on Letterman last night TNE? If you caught any of it or see any of it. Let me know if that sounds like a Leader to you.

    Its one thing to come with straight out talking points. Another to sit there and give the Impression of someone who has no Idea on what to do.

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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
    I stopped reading after your first sentence, because it was just more partisan bull****.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I think the U.S. should hardline EVERY single embacy to the teeth with security and weapons or close them down. Embacies are considered U.S. soil, we have the military and defenses in the U.S. against attacks. Why shouldn't embacies have the same.
    Because they are in a foreign country. A far better option is simply to do away with embassies all together. They are an anachronism in this modern age of instant communication and merely serve as targets for those wishing us ill. Just make it clear to any American traveling to a foreign country that they are on their own if they get into trouble.
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    Re: America playing defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I stopped reading after your first sentence, because it was just more partisan bull****.
    That's not surprising......"what", were you expecting that people would just all agree with whatever team Obama puts out as their excuse and that's that. Nothing else to say Right? Team Obama has spoken. Turn out the lights the Party is taking a break......as we know with Democrats the Party is never over.

    That's it.....the Grand Pubah has spoken.

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    Re: America playing defense

    I honestly can't believe someone would be so stupid as to make one of the poll options "America is on the run."

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