View Poll Results: Vote for the ones you think are fake/phony scandals

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    15 27.27%
  • Benghazi

    16 29.09%
  • Fast and Furious

    10 18.18%
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    7 12.73%
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Thread: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

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    Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    The Obama administration has been saying that the so-called scandals are "phony".

    Which of these do you think phony?

    - IRS targeting conservatives
    - Benghazi
    - Fast and Furious
    - NSA spying
    - None of the above

    Poll is coming....


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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Come to this poll - not the other one!


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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Come to this poll - not the other one!
    You can't tell me what to do. You're not my momma!!!!

    I voted NSA spying. I strongly suspect that it is not nearly as invasive as people fear.

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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Please vote here and not the other one!


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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The Obama administration has been saying that the so-called scandals are "phony".

    Which of these do you think phony?

    - IRS targeting conservatives
    - Benghazi
    - Fast and Furious
    - NSA spying
    - None of the above

    Poll is coming....
    I wouldn't use phony. Overhyped by conservatives? Most of them. They are concerns, but not the nightmare many conservatives see them as.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I wouldn't use phony. Overhyped by conservatives? Most of them. They are concerns, but not the nightmare many conservatives see them as.
    What is the difference between a nightmare and a scandal? I somewhat agree with you, that the hype can be considered over-hype, yet I still have concerns (most especially concerning the NSA).
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What is the difference between a nightmare and a scandal? I somewhat agree with you, that the hype can be considered over-hype, yet I still have concerns (most especially concerning the NSA).
    I have concerns as well, and disagree with things like NSA. I just wish they were discussed without the hype. Sound like we may have some agreement here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have concerns as well, and disagree with things like NSA. I just wish they were discussed without the hype. Sound like we may have some agreement here.
    I think my biggest problem with politics and political media in general is the slippery slope. The slippery slope is undeniably fallacious and poor debate.... except for when it isn't.
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    Re: Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    I think my biggest problem with politics and political media in general is the slippery slope. The slippery slope is undeniably fallacious and poor debate.... except for when it isn't.
    There are ways to test a slippery slope.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Which of these scandals is/are phony?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The Obama administration has been saying that the so-called scandals are "phony".

    Which of these do you think phony?

    - IRS targeting conservatives
    - Benghazi
    - Fast and Furious
    - NSA spying
    - None of the above

    Poll is coming....

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I wouldn't use phony. Overhyped by conservatives? Most of them. They are concerns, but not the nightmare many conservatives see them as.
    Not to target you, just you were the first to bring up this position...

    But can you explain how;

    -The IRS politically motivated targeting,
    -Benghazi, and allowing people to be killed to cover for an arms shipment to Alquaida,
    - fast and furious that gave guns to mexicans which wound up killing Americans to demonize te second ammendment, and
    - NSA spying on everything you say electronically,

    Are all overhyped??

    About 15 or so years ago, the president was impeached for lying about a bj, so, how are not one of these even close to that extreme crime of recieving??

    I'm not being facetious, I really want to understand here??

    EDIT:: caveat; in your explanation, please refrain from the "they did it first so it's ok" type justifications. It was all just as wrong when bush did it, or Clinton, it's not ok because someone else got away with it...
    Last edited by BmanMcfly; 08-07-13 at 12:58 AM.

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