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  • Christian/Catholic

    13 10.66%
  • Christian/Protestant

    23 18.85%
  • Christian/LDS

    4 3.28%
  • Christian/Other

    12 9.84%
  • Jewish

    0 0%
  • Muslim

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  • Buddhist

    2 1.64%
  • Hindu

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  • Other

    25 20.49%
  • atheist

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Thread: Debate Politics Religion Census

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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If by 'emails' you mean PMs, you should report it. That kind of behaviour will not be tolerated at DP.
    They are PMs but I cannot in good conscious report anything. Based upon the rules I am one of the worst offenders. Honor among misanthropes. Still, his Faith makes for very funny reading, especially when he said that Jesus founded the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    They are PMs but I cannot in good conscious report anything. Based upon the rules I am one of the worst offenders. Honor among misanthropes. Still, his Faith makes for very funny reading, especially when he said that Jesus founded the Catholic Church.
    Okay. Well then, you behave yourself too!
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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Baha'i here.
    Really? Now that's a faith that gets the crap kicked out of it by all the rest. That's like Christianity, if the Christians actually followed Jesus that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Okay. Well then, you behave yourself too!
    Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Evangelism is an individual thing rather than a religious order or org. The term I've heard is "charismatic Catholic."
    So, what kind of Christian are you? If a 'charismatic' Catholic, why wouldn't the Catholic tag apply? Is that because you're not a Roman Catholic? I know a lot of Anglo-catholics who get upset if you refer to Anglicanism/Episcopalianism as a protestant church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I worked with a guy once that was that religion. he didn't talk too much about it. He was a really cool guy to work with.

    What's that religion all about anyways?
    Kind of an offshoot of Islam, as I read it. They revere all the prophets from Abraham through Jesus and Muhammed and also a more recent one, Baha'ullah (spelling?). Also someone called 'the Bab' who was like John the Baptist, as I read it. They're a gentle, pacifist group who have been bitterly persecuted in Iran, where their beliefs originated, for being heathens and apostates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Kind of an offshoot of Islam, as I read it. They revere all the prophets from Abraham through Jesus and Muhammed and also a more recent one, Baha'ullah (spelling?). Also someone called 'the Bab' who was like John the Baptist, as I read it. They're a gentle, pacifist group who have been bitterly persecuted in Iran, where their beliefs originated, for being heathens and apostates.
    Calling out for peace is the first sign that in short order someone will come along and try to kill you.

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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Calling out for peace is the first sign that in short order someone will come along and try to kill you.
    And woe to the blasphemer who suggests that God loves everyone.

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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I worked with a guy once that was that religion. he didn't talk too much about it. He was a really cool guy to work with.

    What's that religion all about anyways?
    Thanks for asking! I joined the Baha'i faith relatively recently (2 to 3 years ago) after I had been an agnostic most of my life. What attracted me most was that it's very progressive, basically "secular humanism plus God"... and that all the Baha'i I met were, without exception, really wonderful people.

    We believe in a single, one and only God and unity: Unity of God, of mankind and unity of the prophets. We acknowledge all Biblical prophets as divine prophets, as well as Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna and a few others -- but Baha'u'llah, who founded the Baha'i religion in 19th century Persia, was the most recent prophet. We call that "progressive revelation": Every couple of centuries, God sends a new messenger to "update" religion, for that it best suits the needs of mankind in its respective stage of development. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and so on are all true religions, but the Baha'i faith is the most recent "update" and thus best suited for our times. But it's not the last either: In ca. 850 years, another prophet is expected to appear to reveal another "update".

    The Baha'i religion came into existence in 19th century Persia in a Muslim background, and maybe has the same relation towards Islam as Christianity has towards the Jewish religion. You may also recognize a few elements of Sufiism in the Baha'i faith. All scriptures written by Baha'u'llah are considered holy by us, as well as the scriptures by his son Abdul-Baha, who plays a similar role for Baha'i as Paul plays for Christians. The forerunner of the Baha'i faith was the Bab, who plays a similar role as John the Baptist for Christians.

    A clergy is explicitly forbidden in our faith, as no believer is above another and we value independent search for the truth. Baha'u'llah determined that all institutions of our religion are democratically elected by the believers. That is why in our devotion meetings, there are no preachings or collective prayers, but just meditation and individual prayers. The holy scriptures say that any religious conviction that contradicts science is mere superstition. Zealotry, aggressive prozelytism, religious bigotry and "holy war" are explicitly forbidden in the scripture. We are commanded to accept the believer of any other religion and living in peace with them, and merely using the word as a weapon. Badmouthing other people behind their backs is considered a sin.

    Also, we believe it's our goal to peacefully work for the goal of uniting mankind, just like it once was the mission of Moses to unite the tribe and of Mohammed to unite nations. Our long term goal is achieving a peaceful community of the entire mankind, even if that will still take a long time. Shoghi Effendi, great-grandson of Baha'u'llah and Protector of the faith until 1957, said the "three greatest tin god idols" people are worshipping these days instead of God, are racism, nationalism and communism. Baha'u'llah said the best form of government for the time being is a combination of republic and monarchy, as in the UK. Also, before mankind has grown into one, institutions of collective security are the best way to deal with international problems.

    We also believe in an eternal soul, which will continue to exist forever in the afterlife. Heaven and hell are just symbols for being close to are far from God in the next life.
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    Re: Debate Politics Religion Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Kind of an offshoot of Islam, as I read it. They revere all the prophets from Abraham through Jesus and Muhammed and also a more recent one, Baha'ullah (spelling?). Also someone called 'the Bab' who was like John the Baptist, as I read it. They're a gentle, pacifist group who have been bitterly persecuted in Iran, where their beliefs originated, for being heathens and apostates.
    Yes, that's more or less it ... although "offshoot of Islam" maybe gives a wrong impression, as the Baha'i faith is generally considered an independent religion (as is not more an offshoot of Islam than Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism). And while we value peace very much, I don't think we are pacifists, as Baha'u'llah himself proposed institutions of collective security ("if one leaders rises to attack another country, all should stand up united against him").

    There are currently 6 to 8 million Baha'i in the world, ca. 300,000 to 500,000 of which in Iran, where they are the most numerous religious minority and, as you say, bitterly persecuted. Other notable Baha'i communities exist in North America (ca. 800,000) and India (ca. 2 million). I'm proud that the Baha'i religion is the second most geographically widespread religion on the planet after Christianity.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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