Xsnake1
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Is atheism a religion
... if you're asking whether atheism is an unproveable belief, then yeah it is... the existence of God can neither be proven nor disproven scientifically at this time.
Absolutely not. In my experience nearly all who label it so are religious themselves and do so in an attempt to discredit the stance.
Most atheists don't believe that no god exists.
They simply don't believe claims made by the religious, because there's no evidence for them.
Rejecting someone else's positive claim is not a belief.
Yup. And I always find that really ironic.
At its core, they're defending religious as something good. So... they try to label atheism as a "religion" in order to discredit it? But I thought religion was good.
It makes me wonder if a lot of religious people know what shaky ground they're on when trying to tell an atheist they should believe.
Atheist, agnostic, potato, tomato... I think that's a hair-splitting definition but whatever works for ya. :shrug:
I think its more trying to make atheists look like hypocrites for having a religion, than it is saying that religion is bad.
Ehh, no, it isn't. This perception that atheists in general make a claim that no god exists is not and has never been the definition of atheism. In fact, there's an entirely different word for that. That belief persists because of wild characterization of atheists by religious people.
False.Ehh, no, it isn't. This perception that atheists in general make a claim that no god exists is not and has never been the definition of atheism.
atheism
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Atheism | Define Atheism at Dictionary.com
Yeah, except for the way they usually defend it.
They defend it by aping the way atheists usually present their case against religion; no evidence. Of course, that's really silly when they're the ones making a claim, but that's beside the point.
They are saying that having no evidence is bad (I'm using good/bad in a really generic "debate terminology" sense). That's the basis of their attack on atheism, once they've succeeded in mischaracterizing what it actually is.
Most of the atheists I've encountered are quite vigorous in proclaiming that no god exists, by which I mean actively and positively, so I consider the distinction more theoretical than pragmatic.
Agreed on the irony of attacking the (supposedly) faith based approach. The comparison in terms of dogmatism also falls short on the grounds that one party is not attempting to make a positive claim.Yup. And I always find that really ironic.
At its core, they're defending religious as something good. So... they try to label atheism as a "religion" in order to discredit it? But I thought religion was good.
It makes me wonder if a lot of religious people know what shaky ground they're on when trying to tell an atheist they should believe.
Atheist, agnostic, potato, tomato... I think that's a hair-splitting definition but whatever works for ya. :shrug:
Most atheists don't believe that no god exists.
They simply don't believe claims made by the religious, because there's no evidence for them.
Rejecting someone else's positive claim is not a belief.
Atheism is no more of a religion than theism is. Both just describe a type of belief or attitude towards God.Is atheism a religion
False.
I always chuckle when I see atheists claim "belief that no god exists" is not a definition of atheism when all they have to do is go to the dictionary to find out that that is not true. For a group of people who are always on their high horses about evidence and not making false claims, you guys sure do seem to lack the latter and do the former often.
Can you link to the statistics?And yet statistically there are so few of them.
Don't know, don't care.
In other news, is an apple a banana?
Is an acorn an oak tree?
If a bear craps in the woods, is he Catholic?
Meanwhile, back on the farm...
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... if you're asking whether atheism is an unproveable belief, then yeah it is... the existence of God can neither be proven nor disproven scientifically at this time.