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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You just continue to play games, you are not interested in reaching an understanding, and you are fine allowing the debate to get hung up on semantics. It is an infantile tactic to avoid getting to an understanding.
    Stop playing games.

    I don't have to think about it, it is self evident that you are afraid to move the discussion forward, I have given you plenty of chances to choose a word relating to belief that differentiates from knowledge. You won't make a choice.
    You are ****ing horrible at this.

    No, as I explained, you are in a comfort zone, this is the extent of your capabilities and you can't go forward.
    No, you seem pretty comfortable, though.

    You keep proving my point, you won't move forward.
    You won't move forward.

    Do you see what I did in that post? The exact same things you're doing.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I didn't ask you to define everyone's concept.
    Okay? Did I offer to?

    If you want to ask your question, but refuse to explain it, or better simply "don't know", there's nothing to answer.
    If you need an explanation for that simple question? lol

    Okay, I wouldn't want your answer anyway then.

    "Hey, who do you think would win in a game of basketball between prime Roberto Clemente and a prime Floyd Mayweather?"

    "...what's a basketball?"

    "oh....nevermind dude!"
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    This means that if there is testable proof, people may no longer believe in it..
    No, it doesn't.

    Faith based belief - requires no evidence/observation
    Reasoned belief - requires evidence/observation

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    If you need an explanation for that simple question?
    You're forfeiting. I accept it.

    And no, it's not a simple question, as evidenced by the countless debaters, philosophers, apologists, authors, who consistently misunderstand and misrepresent the philosophical implications of that question.

    Any time you want to ask a question that you refuse to clarify, I submit that you shouldn't bother asking the question...

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    No, it doesn't.

    Faith based belief - requires no evidence/observation
    Reasoned belief - requires evidence/observation
    Right. Belief. I'm not talking about faith or reason. But thanks, that was helpful of you.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You're forfeiting.
    What am I forfeiting?

    I accept it.
    Okay?

    And no, it's not a simple question, as evidenced by the countless debaters, philosophers, apologists, authors, who consistently misunderstand and misrepresent the philosophical implications of that question.

    Any time you want to ask a question that you refuse to clarify, I submit that you shouldn't bother asking the question...
    I submit that I don't care? If you can't answer whether you yourself believe a god exists, believe a god doesn't exist, or believe that you don't know, you might as well be the basketball in question.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    This means that if there is testable proof, people may no longer believe in it.
    You just absolutely refuse to make the distinction between knowing and not knowing, you refuse to bring the conversation to the point of yourself using a word that describes the construct of holding to an idea without proof.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Right. Belief. I'm not talking about faith or reason.
    Faith and belief, in the context of an idea without proof, are the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You just absolutely refuse to make the distinction between knowing and not knowing
    Am I? I that why I specifically have three options, to include 'not knowing'?

    you refuse to bring the conversation to the point of yourself using a word that describes the construct of holding to an idea without proof.
    Or you refuse to acknowledge that there is no distinction between believing there's a god and believing there's not one when it comes to a random belief.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Faith and belief, in the context of an idea without proof, are the same thing.
    And belief is on a spectrum.

    Cash and money, in the context of 1980, are the same thing.

    You refuse to understand that not all contexts are what you wish they'd be.
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