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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For a MUTATION to be sustainable it would HAVE to occur with thousands of member of the species in order for it to be sustained over the subsequent generations.
    Look, just wiki it, alright? You don't have to be a biologist with thirty years under your belt to get the gist of it.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For a MUTATION to be sustainable it would HAVE to occur with thousands of member of the species in order for it to be sustained over the subsequent generations.
    No, just one. As an analogy this is like claiming that for a forest fire to happen thousands of trees must catch fire at once, or that for an epidemic to occur thousands of people have to simultaneously acquire the disease. It only takes one spark, and the forest fire spreads from there, it only takes one carrier and the epidemic radiates from there. It only takes one individual and the mutation gets passed on to later generations from there.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Right. You 'believe' in the Big bang because its what the current theory holds. Is it proven? Is it 'true'?
    It's known that all matter radiated out from a single point.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No, we don't. You don't quite understand what agnosticism is. That is not "interpretation."
    You see. I do not think you quite understand agnosticism or atheism. At least it did not sound that way. Maybe you would like to explain briefly, what you think it is that I misunderstand? That would be cool.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Intraspecies mutation? Of course. Microevolution? You bet...its an easily proven fact. Thats the low hanging fruit.

    Now...MACRO evolution and the development of complex organisms? You are offering that as a proven fact?
    Macro evolution is just micro evolution plus time and/or scale. There isn't any meaningful difference between the two. Macro evolution has actually been observed in real time as well. But even if that weren't the case, it isn't necessary in the face of other overwhelming evidence.

    You seem to be having a problem with the idea of complex organs. What you don't get is that organs don't simply start that way. They start as something simpler, and the bells and whistles get added as time passes.

    Just because you cannot picture what a million $1 bills would look like does not mean it is impossible to have a million $1 bills. Likewise, just because you cannot picture time scale does not mean it doesn't exist.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You see. I do not think you quite understand agnosticism or atheism. At least it did not sound that way. Maybe you would like to explain briefly, what you think it is that I misunderstand? That would be cool.
    You're incorrect.

    I suggested you look immediately above you so that you could see me explain this about 10 times. Oh well.

    Agnosticism is about what knowledge is possible to acquire.

    Atheism is about the knowledge we already have (or don't have, as the case may be).

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Look, just wiki it, alright? You don't have to be a biologist with thirty years under your belt to get the gist of it.


    I understand the 'gist' of it. The magic mutation occurs, and it transforms the species. The mutation isnt bred out, dominant DNA doesnt correct the mutation, but rather it causes the entire genus to transform. Time and scope...right? And the science is 'proven'? Just as the science behind the evolution of complex organs? That must be why it is no longer called 'theory'.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Macro evolution is just micro evolution plus time and/or scale. Macro evolution has actually been observed in real time as well. But even if that weren't the case, it isn't necessary in the face of other overwhelming evidence.

    You see to be having a problem with the idea of complex organs. What you don't get is that organs don't simply start that way. They start as something simpler, and the bells and whistles get added as time passes.

    Just because you cannot picture what a million $1 bills would look like does not mean it is impossible to have a million $1 bills. Likewise, just because you cannot picture time scale does not mean it doesn't exist.
    You DID Wiki it! Thats funny right there!!!

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    I understand the 'gist' of it. The magic -
    Aaaand I stopped reading there. If you won't spend fifteen minutes reading a damn wiki entry that would at least elevate you from making a complete ass out of yourself, then have some self respect and stop commenting on the subject.

    As a "fan of science" surely you can appreciate that.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 08-21-13 at 01:05 PM.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It's known that all matter radiated out from a single point.
    Thats a buttload of 'matter'. Where did it all come from? What was that force that caused the bang and transformed...what...a vacuum...no...wait...a world of dark matter...right? into...planets, stars, life. Its a great theory. One you can really believe in.

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