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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...I wont be answering your silly question. If however you would like to stay on topic and ask questions that are relevant, that will be fine. All of the commonly accepted definitions are very clear. Atheists dont believe in a God or religion. Agnostics dont know. So...what are you?
    Ah, I see. So you get that, but you magically stop getting it when I switch out the nouns?

    Like I said, your entire presentation of this is based around your desire to make atheism fit your own needs: wanting to pretend as though it's as baseless a position as religion to make yourself feel better and less ridiculous when you're in a debate about it.

    I'm an atheist. The real kind, not the imaginary straw man you've invented.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't care what they say, I care about what they can prove. They can say they "KNOW" that aliens are running the government, that doesn't make that claim of knowledge credible. No matter how strong one's faith happens to be, that doesn't mean that they have any actual knowledge, otherwise it wouldn't require faith. I don't see very many people claiming that they *KNOW* that there are no gods anywhere, although there are certainly some gods we can know don't exist because they are logically contradictory.
    Meh...I dont care so much about 'prove'. Prove love...and then go ahead and try to live without it. Faith is a choice. Prove the big bang, or for that matter any other 'theory'.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Ah, I see. So you get that, but you magically stop getting it when I switch out the nouns?

    Like I said, your entire presentation of this is based around your desire to make atheism fit your own needs: wanting to pretend as though it's as baseless a position as religion to make yourself feel better and less ridiculous when you're in a debate about it.

    I'm an atheist. The real kind, not the imaginary straw man you've invented.
    Atheism IS a baseless position. Its a rather foolish position to boot. You dont believe in God. Fine What DO you believe in? What is your foundation of faith (theory) on the origin of the cosmos and the creation of all things?

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Atheism IS a baseless position. Its a rather foolish position to boot. You dont believe in God. Fine What DO you believe in? What is your foundation of faith (theory) on the origin of the cosmos and the creation of all things?
    Sure it is. Not believing in unicorns is a baseless proposition too, but there aren't roving gangs of unicorn-believers wandering around trying to get their beliefs legislated into law, to get their beliefs extra rights, etc. If there were, you'd have lots of vocal a-unicornists out there doing the same thing atheists are.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Atheism IS a baseless position. Its a rather foolish position to boot. You dont believe in God. Fine What DO you believe in? What is your foundation of faith (theory) on the origin of the cosmos and the creation of all things?
    Not believing in gods is a tiny absence in an atheist's rich and wonderful life of freedom from superstition. Not having a god to believe in doesn't equate to believing in nothing.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Not believing in gods is a tiny absence in an atheist's rich and wonderful life of freedom from superstition. Not having a god to believe in doesn't equate to believing in nothing.
    Great. I couldnt give half a damn if you believe in God. That wasnt the question. the question then is what DO you believe in? What is your foundation of faith (theory) that drives your belief system

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sure it is. Not believing in unicorns is a baseless proposition too, but there aren't roving gangs of unicorn-believers wandering around trying to get their beliefs legislated into law, to get their beliefs extra rights, etc. If there were, you'd have lots of vocal a-unicornists out there doing the same thing atheists are.
    Same response. Postulating about what you DONT believe in doesnt get any closer to what you DO believe in.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Great. I couldnt give half a damn if you believe in God. That wasnt the question. the question then is what DO you believe in? What is your foundation of faith (theory) that drives your belief system
    Why do you assume that everyone must have a "belief system"?
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Same response. Postulating about what you DONT believe in doesnt get any closer to what you DO believe in.
    Because in this case it's entirely irrelevant. I don't believe in gods. I don't believe in the supernatural. I don't believe in the irrational. What's your point?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because in this case it's entirely irrelevant. I don't believe in gods. I don't believe in the supernatural. I don't believe in the irrational. What's your point?
    Always truly inspirational to see what people dont believe. Its very...powerful. Awesome. And so well articulated.

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