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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    If you can't answer, please sit down. Make a drink.
    We have answered, you just keep ignoring any answers you don't like. But go ahead, keep standing there making a fool of yourself, it's entertaining.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    We have answered, you just keep ignoring any answers you don't like. But go ahead, keep standing there making a fool of yourself, it's entertaining.
    Really? Can you link me to someone answering?
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Anyway, I'll repeat it, since it's clear that's what we're seeing here:

    I'm coming to the conclusion that some atheists are so rigidly and doggedly against the idea of a god (often just known as 'religion', but that doesn't entail all of it, as we've seen) that they bristle at the idea of "religious" or "religion" describing them in any way whatsoever. So much so that they'll argue about for damn near 40 pages. The Pavolovian response in them is so strong that they can't help but fight against the very word. But that's too bad. The more they believe, the more they care, the more they fight...the more it describes them.

    And again: I say this as someone that doesn't believe in god.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm coming to the conclusion that some atheists are so rigidly and doggedly against the idea of a god (often just known as 'religion', but that doesn't entail all of it, as we've seen) that they bristle at the idea of "religious" or "religion" describing them in any way whatsoever. So much so that they'll argue about for damn near 40 pages. The Pavolovian response in them is so strong that they can't help but fight against the very word. But that's too bad. The more they believe, the more they care, the more they fight...the more it describes them.
    We're against the idea of a god in the same sense that we're against the idea of unicorns. Yet there doesn't happen to be a bunch of unicornists running around trying to force their unicorn beliefs on society or get their unicorn ideas enshrined in law. That is, however, what happens every day with theists. We're not against any gods, we don't believe any exist. We're against idiot theists who are trying to force their absurd god beliefs on us.

    And again: I say this as someone that doesn't believe in god.
    That doesn't make you a rational person though.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Not true. Would you call Kant, Descartes, Plato, Socrates, etc. religious people, or founders of religions? They are philosophers. It's possible to make an existential assertion about the nature of reality without being religious in nature.



    Buddhists are atheists, yet they are still considered a religion because they have a set of spiritual doctrines and principles that must be followed in order for spiritual work to be considered valid. You can also be an atheist and a scientist. Atheism lies separate from other philosophies. It just means you don't believe in God(s).
    I am of the understanding that Buddhism is not about believing or not believing in God or gods. Only that God is not necessary to realize what they claim as enlightenment. Just because you find God or gods unnecessary, doesn't mean a Buddhist denies the existence of one. So wouldn't Buddhism be more nontheistic than atheistic?

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    We're against the idea of a god in the same sense that we're against the idea of unicorns.
    Okay. That's a belief about unicorns, then.

    Yet there doesn't happen to be a bunch of unicornists running around trying to force their unicorn beliefs on society or get their unicorn ideas enshrined in law.
    That's great.

    That is, however, what happens every day with theists.
    Yeah, sucks.

    We're not against any gods, we don't believe any exist.
    Which is a religious belief.

    We're against idiot theists who are trying to force their absurd god beliefs on us.
    Far out, I agree.

    That doesn't make you a rational person though.
    It makes me laugh at how you can't even go a paragraph without going on a screed against people who believe in god, which reinforces why I think you're so against the label "religious". You're religious, though. Sorry!
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    ****in' religious people. Always trying to push their beliefs down your throat.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ****in' religious people. Always trying to push their beliefs down your throat.
    I've never done that. Not here or in real life either. So unfair to overgeneralize in this way.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As opposed to your own founded arrogance, you mean?
    I don't know, I'm not the one who called over half the world's population "delusional," as if you know better than they do. That pretty much defines "arrogance."

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because apparently finding someone not guilty in court is exactly the same as finding them factually innocent?
    Bad analogy.

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