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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    At its core, they're defending religious as something good. So... they try to label atheism as a "religion" in order to discredit it? But I thought religion was good.
    No. The one true religion is not a religion, but TRUTH, while all other religions are bad.

    As for the OP: No, lack of belief is not a belief, by definition. That simply doesn't make sense.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    If you have to ask this question, you don't understand Atheism. Which is weird since it's really simple.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I can't imagine what might happen to your cranium if two dictionaries disagreed with each other, which happens, well, constantly.
    Nothing. In fact, look at my very first post to you. I chose my words carefully to reflect reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I always chuckle when I see atheists claim "belief that no god exists" is not a definition of atheism
    In other words, it is one definition out of at least two - it is A definition not THE ONLY definition. Therefore, given that I've acknowledged the multiple definitions of atheism in my posts to you which you presumably read, I can't imagine why you would even suggest that I would I have problem with multiple definitions unless you just wanted to be passive aggressive.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Most of the atheists I've encountered are quite vigorous in proclaiming that no god exists, by which I mean actively and positively, so I consider the distinction more theoretical than pragmatic.
    I agree insofar as there are anti-religious zealots (which is pretty ironic, as this is a behavior usually attributed to religious people). But most atheists I know don't bother attacking believers and don't care.

    Still atheism is not a religion, even in case of anti-religious zealots ... they may believe in all kind of different things and ideologies, and all they have in common is rejecting the belief in God.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Atheist, agnostic, potato, tomato... I think that's a hair-splitting definition but whatever works for ya.
    Except that one requires a belief, as you claim, whereas the other requires no belief, as S&M claims. So there is a difference, despite you pretending in this post that there isn't.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Atheism isn't the lack of religion, it's simply the lack of belief in a deity. There are a few religions around that don't have deities.
    Most definitions of religion I've seen require believing in if not a deity at least supernatural events. I've never seen anyone making a distinction of people who believe in the supernatural but not any sort of deity. I suppose if they exist then its a worthwhile distinction.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Most definitions of religion I've seen require believing in if not a deity at least supernatural events. I've never seen anyone making a distinction of people who believe in the supernatural but not any sort of deity. I suppose if they exist then its a worthwhile distinction.
    Buddhists, some variations of neopaganism, the occult, and LaVeyan Satanism are the more well known non-theistic religious beliefs.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Buddhists, some variations of neopaganism, the occult, and LaVeyan Satanism are the more well known non-theistic religious beliefs.
    By most definitions I've seen of religion, if they did not have any supernatural beliefs, they wouldn't really qualify as a religion. If they involve supernatural beliefs, then they probably would.

    It doesn't really matter though. Because its a rare distinction please consider the way I used Atheism in my first post as meaning the lack of belief in any deity or anything supernatural, since it's a distinction that I rarely see.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    By most definitions I've seen of religion, if they did not have any supernatural beliefs, they wouldn't really qualify as a religion. If they involve supernatural beliefs, then they probably would.

    It doesn't really matter though. Because its a rare distinction please consider the way I used Atheism in my first post as meaning the lack of belief in any deity or anything supernatural, since it's a distinction that I rarely see.
    The supernatural and gods are two different things that aren't exclusive to each other.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    The supernatural and gods are two different things that aren't exclusive to each other.
    I understand that. The vast majority of people either believe in a deity and the supernatural or neither. I just rarely see anyone making the distinction between an atheist who believes in the supernatural but not a deity, which is why I did not make the distinction in my post.
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