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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol, no you didn't. Why are you so militant. I don't believe in god, either.
    Yes I did. It's not my fault you can't read.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes I did. It's not my fault you can't read.
    Are you okay? Are you mad right now? Do you believe there is no god? Wow...can't even answer it...kinda telling, but who knows why?
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Are you okay? Are you mad right now? Do you believe there is no god? Wow...can't even answer it...kinda telling, but who knows why?
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
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    loooooooooooool so weird. A simple question that can't be answered. And that explains that.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    loooooooooooool so weird. A simple question that can't be answered. And that explains that.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Logical persuasion is not a key feature of religion, not the way that empirical material reductionists do it. You can't call atheists religious simply because they are trying to demonstrate the lack of proof for something. There's no real doctrine behind that, and no set of principles they are following. the 'a' in atheist means an absence. It would be like looking into a vacuum and claiming there is something there, when really there isn't.

    Some religious people would like to paint atheists as religious because that's their paradigm of thought that they live in. For centuries, most of the world lived in a reality of competing categorical doctrines, so it was necessary to always view 'the other' as having an opposing set of beliefs that were blasphemous. Atheism challenges the religious because there is no doctrine to grasp onto for the sake of argument. Atheism is abstinence and non-participation. You can't argue with its existence because it's a non-existence.

    One caveat I have is that militant atheists like Dawkins are making it their mission to dismantle religion. I think when it transfers from pacifism to active attack based on principle, then you could say that there are elements of dogma there. Nonetheless, that does not make atheism a faith-based system of any kind.

    What religious people are trying to describe is actually dogma, not a tangible religion. Dogma can strike anyone, religious or not. It happens when people think their view of reality, their epistemology, is incontrovertibly true, and they're willing to fight over it. IMO dogma is the #1 problem on this planet. Many humans cannot live and let live so we continue to succumb to the base nature of conflict.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Ahh....but SOME atheists' tendency to try to "convert" others to their POV is similar to a religion.....that's all I've been trying to say. SOME of you are just as bad as the Evangelicals who think it's their duty to bend you to their will.
    I see...well, I don't waste my time on such. My observation is that it's exercise in futility. So you might want to exclude the word "YOU" in your comment "Some of YOU"....as you haven't witnessed me trying to convert anybody.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post

    All will go well with your new project.
    Okay, go get the last word. You seem almost religious about having it.

    Or don't.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Well...except you clearly have some belief, because here you are posting about it.
    Give me the elements necessary to meet the definition of "Religion"...and then apply that to the elements related to atheism.

    I'm here defending the fact that atheism isn't a religion. We have believes that aren't related to structured elements that most all religions have.

    One again...Having Beliefs...don't constitute a religion.

    OldWorld...as I said before...let's just agree that we don't agree with each other's points. You've made it clear that you will continue to claim that a belief is a religion.

    So...if you feel compelled to carry on with your claim...

    Do everybody a favor and give us something more than your opinion that a belief by atheists is in fact a religion. There are a lot of references and information available to formulate a more precise way of constructing your argument.

    You're just making a declaration...and aren't providing anything of substance as to how you've arrived at your claim.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Okay, go get the last word. You seem almost religious about having it.

    Or don't.
    Better ask twice than lose yourself once.

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