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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Whoa, back up. Atheism is nothing more than the lack of belief in a supreme deity. That's it. Of course atheists may have political and ideological beliefs about religious freedoms, or lack thereof, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism. I am an atheist. I believe freedom of religion is the foundation upon which this country is based, and is sacrosync... all religions. I have political and ideological opinions about enforcing the beliefs of any religion on all of society, in the same manner that Christians would object to being subjected to enforced Muslim or Jewish on all of society. That has nothing to do with my lack of belief in a supreme deity.

    Atheism is not a religion. It is a lack of belief in a supreme deity, that is all. Any other opinions and ideologies formed about the society in which we live are derived the same way any religious person's opinions and ideology is derived; by our personal opinion on various issues, personal morality on various issues, and our personal views of right and wrong.
    Wicca is a religion and they don't believe in a supreme being. From what I understand witches believe in subordinate beings.

    My definition of religion isn't the belief in a supreme being but rather the exploitation of a belief system, sometimes led by very religious leaders who might be atheists/hypocrites. When Jesus was on the earth just about all of his conflict with humans were with religious people. Religion by my definition is about advancing a culture often for the the purposes of self pomotion and/or controlling others, which is a counterfeit of true faith. I do not consider myself to be religious. I don't consider Jesus to be religious. Faith in God and being religious are by my definition, not the same thing. Freedom and government by the consent of the governed is also not the same as being a political hack, to offer a comparison.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, precisely. Many Buddhists fall into this category - they do not believe in God, but do not hold a strong belief the other way. To them, it's not a terribly important question, so some may say "probably not, but what does it matter" and others might say "there probably is something out there bigger than me, but what does it matter."
    Alright then, I guess I misunderstood you. Buddhism is, in a lot of ways, a philosophy, not a religion, there are lots of people who accept portions of it that are wholly non-supernatural and I don't have much problem with that at all.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Wicca is a religion and they don't believe in a supreme being.
    They do believe in the supernatural as well as what we'd consider deities, even if they aren't supreme.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Is Atheism a religion? I don't know.....on one one hand, they don't believe in a deity....so...that would lead.me to say no.

    On the other hand.....some of them believe in their non-belief so much that it's almost evangelical. So that would lead me to say yes.

    I say....I don't know.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    They do believe in the supernatural as well as what we'd consider deities, even if they aren't supreme.
    Understood, but I was answering the assertion that "religion" means belief in a supreme being.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Understood, but I was answering the assertion that "religion" means belief in a supreme being.
    But if we only look at supreme deities, that removes Buddhism, Shinto and a bunch of other religions that have "gods" but not supreme gods as religions.

    Buddhism not a religion? That's pretty silly.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Is Atheism a religion? I don't know.....on one one hand, they don't believe in a deity....so...that would lead.me to say no.

    On the other hand.....some of them believe in their non-belief so much that it's almost evangelical. So that would lead me to say yes.

    I say....I don't know.
    That's a bit ridiculous. Are fanatical sports fans religious? Being fanatical has nothing to do with religion.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's a bit ridiculous. Are fanatical sports fans religious? Being fanatical has nothing to do with religion.
    When it comes to deities, or the lack thereof? I think it's debatable.

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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    Is Atheism a religion? I don't know.....on one one hand, they don't believe in a deity....so...that would lead.me to say no.

    On the other hand.....some of them believe in their non-belief so much that it's almost evangelical. So that would lead me to say yes.

    I say....I don't know.
    If it is just people believing in their belief fanatically, that would open up many things like political followers and sports fans to be religions. I don't really see how atheism could be seen as a religion. Other than the lack of belief in God it has no unifying principles or organization. To be an atheist you don't even have to believe in the Big Bang or evolution. You could even believe in a flat earth.

    There are certainly fanatical atheists who go way to far in their disbelief, but you could say the same for almost anything. Those people do not make atheism a religion.
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    Re: Is atheism a religion

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    If it is just people believing in their belief fanatically, that would open up many things like political followers and sports fans to be religions. I don't really see how atheism could be seen as a religion. Other than the lack of belief in God it has no unifying principles or organization. To be an atheist you don't even have to believe in the Big Bang or evolution. You could even believe in a flat earth.

    There are certainly fanatical atheists who go way to far in their disbelief, but you could say the same for almost anything. Those people do not make atheism a religion.
    Well....in that case, could you call deism a "religion"?

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