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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    2.5% doesn't seem to be normal.
    it always has been.

    or do you mean because I'm not like you I'm not normal? if you are what normal is, you aren't, that I'm glad to be not your kind of normal.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    gays have been part of normal society for thousands of years. The only person outside of normal society here is you.
    I'm not even comfortable with the term "normal society," but since you used it, I will. If gays have been a part of normal society for thousands of years, then why all the hub-bub now?

    In my lifetime, the gay people I've known, with the exception of those who were in the arts and flamboyantly out, were generally closeted until the last 20 years. Earlier in the thread, reference was made to Queer Nation and Act Up, and I think the reason you don't hear so much from them anymore is because there really is so much acceptance by ordinary folks, so much of a "live-and-let-live" attitude.

    Only a little over a century ago at Oscar Wilde's trial, the line from his lover's poem was quoted: "The love that dares not speak its name." I'm not sure I understand what you mean about gays being a part of "normal society." I mean, of course, they were--they were alive and members of families and working and so on. But I wouldn't say that they were out and accepted as a commonplace, would you?

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    gays have been part of normal society for thousands of years. The only person outside of normal society here is you.
    Oh, waxes CLAX.... ha ha ha...so stay a part of normal society, we like it that way, we don't want it becoming any more abnormal/deviant than it already is. And I take that as a badge of honor coming from you, thanks.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    "Normality" is irrelevant. The individual is what truly counts, not the herd.
    what they think normal is, is abandoning who you are to be part of the collective. assimilating against your will so that haters will think you're normal. that's just stupid.

    I'm sorry I'm just not enough of a coward to want to be normal.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh, waxes CLAX.... ha ha ha...so stay a part of normal society, we like it that way, we don't want it becoming any more abnormal/deviant than it already is. And I take that as a badge of honor coming from you, thanks.
    you are the deviant. its deviant now to I think that homosexuality is deviance.

    you're crying because you're being pushed out. you are obsolete. that offends you,
    there is an easy solution, grow.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Boy scouts will not collapse, just backward people who believe that the world revolves around sex will be ran off. Good riddance the program doesn't need you any longer. What you teach was of no value.

    Your delusions of a "gay mafia" border on insanity. This has gone so far with you that you need to invent a conspiracy to explain it.

    Tolerance isn't enough. And you are only tolerant because you can't do anything about it.

    The war is all on you, of you simply grow up there would be no need for this war. Your principals don't have to change, just your meddling in the affairs of others.

    But I personally think your sanity is slipping away. Pretending there is a war about my sexuality, inventing the gay mafia? Thinking you have the ability to be intolerant of your fellow citizens. You sound like a future domestic terrorist to me.
    Already wasted waaaaaay too much time bashing my hard earned brains out against your thick brick wall without you ever really understanding, then you got all mean and nasty ...

    So... you will have to find some other new comer, some poor good soul, and lure them into an inane battle that you will not quit fighting but you will not win. Ciao.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm not even comfortable with the term "normal society," but since you used it, I will. If gays have been a part of normal society for thousands of years, then why all the hub-bub now?

    In my lifetime, the gay people I've known, with the exception of those who were in the arts and flamboyantly out, were generally closeted until the last 20 years. Earlier in the thread, reference was made to Queer Nation and Act Up, and I think the reason you don't hear so much from them anymore is because there really is so much acceptance by ordinary folks, so much of a "live-and-let-live" attitude.

    Only a little over a century ago at Oscar Wilde's trial, the line from his lover's poem was quoted: "The love that dares not speak its name." I'm not sure I understand what you mean about gays being a part of "normal society." I mean, of course, they were--they were alive and members of families and working and so on. But I wouldn't say that they were out and accepted as a commonplace, would you?
    they have always been part of normal society open discussion of them has not. it was an effort to appease the public.

    the hubbub is that I am tired of appeasing people. that's the only difference between now and any of our history. we will speak its name, and everybody will deal with it the First Amendment protects us.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    it always has been.

    or do you mean because I'm not like you I'm not normal? if you are what normal is, you aren't, that I'm glad to be not your kind of normal.
    It use to be 2%, now it's 2.5%. It's growing, that's not normal.

    What will happen to society when it's 98 % ?

    Will there even be a society ?

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Already wasted waaaaaay too much time bashing my hard earned brains out against your thick brick wall without you ever really understanding, then you got all mean and nasty ...

    So... you will have to find some other new comer, some poor good soul, and lure them into an inane battle that you will not quit fighting but you will not win. Ciao.
    I have already won, I won before you even joined this forum. whatever pretend battles you're having that's all in your head dude, seek some help.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When are the Libbos going to stop trying to force their beliefs on everyone else? Why not just shutup about it and let people come around on their own; the end result of that might be much more to your liking.
    What exactly do you feel is being forced on you? How does someone else's marriage affect you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Get your head out of your butt, boy. Churches are already changing to accommodate this agenda. In Canada, where its legal, churches are stepping on eggshells preaching the gospel that its a sin, an abomination for man to lie with man. The Boy Scouts caved to the pressure, people in states where gay marriage is not even legal are being successfully sued if they decline to say, photograph the wedding [not legal] of a gay couple. You heterophobes are quite getting quite cheeky nowadays, not bright, just cheeky. Which is why we can face you with great disdain, a shame and stain on society.
    How are any of those things bad? Religious doctrines have changed many times during history. It used to be a sin to charge interest on a loan. The preaching against gays will give way. Religions aren't actually as fixed as they like to pretend they are. The Boy Scouts, as a private organization, altered their stance to better please their customers. That's what a business is supposed to do. And as we have already long since established, banning SSM is unconstitutional.

    What exactly do you mean by "heterophobe"? Do you think anyone is actually attempting to discriminate against heterosexuals? Seriously, what are you losing besides the ability to freely oppress people because of your religion? Besides, why not preach something constructive like "feed the hungry" instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Back during the 70's all they wanted was for the sodemy laws to be abolished. That's all they wanted.

    BS, Give them an inch and they want the whole nine yards.
    Yeah, they'll want every single right that we secure for ourselves. That would be awful.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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