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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Same answer I gave someone else: I'm a reasonable and intelligent person. But predicting the future isn't what you did, and isn't what I'm replying to. You said A meant B, and factually it doesn't.
    Here is what the first guy said, whatever his name is: "how long will it take until socially conservative mass movements, no longer strictly bound to the Baby Boomer literalist evangelism that has defined them for four decades, accept gay marriage."

    Correct? I mean you say you are "a reasonable and intelligent person", right?

    I said this: "how long is it until we have total anarchy? How long until nobody gives a damn about anything at all anymore?"

    How is my "how" question any less of an applicable how question than his is? His is his interpretation of how events will play out, mine is mine... so, what is your beef, bubba? Or excuse me, Boo?
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    When "social conservatives" actually start caring about strong families again.
    Wait a minute--since when do "social conservatives" not care about "strong families"? Do we have different definitions of "social conservatives" and "strong families"?

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Wait a minute--since when do "social conservatives" not care about "strong families"? Do we have different definitions of "social conservatives" and "strong families"?
    Yeah, we probably do. We want public policies that reaffirm moral character and social stability. Adaptations at the federal and state level to new social realities still nevertheless require affirmation of American values and stability. The loss of the two parent household was a strong concern for neoconservatives over the past 50 years. This is, at least in part, why a number of neoconservatives are in favor of gay marriage and gay adoption. We have stragglers among our ranks as well, but times are changing.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Your weak ego aside, gay people doing what they've always done isn't a change. it may threaten your fragile world but it's not a change.
    uh huh...you are the guy that was saying nothing was gonna change and then the Boy Scouts collapsed before our very eyes and are now probably going to fade into the past, all that good camaraderie, good deeds and skills taught lost to the future due to the war created by what amounts to a gay mafia on anybody who stands on principle and gets in their way. Its why I am no longer tolerant, you folks aren't, so I take my cue from ya'll...no shame either.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Nota bene: consider the recent assault by the Right upon the Earned Income Tax Credit for poor and dependent families. Libertarian-leaning conservatives and Third Wayers embrace the EITC as both a means to reduce the social burden of charity on the wealthy and to render progressive assistance to the poor. It was social conservatives who sought to do away with the EITC, because it undermines the charitable role of churches.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Gay people need to adjust to normal society, not the other way around. If you don't get just the efficiency of that, well...
    gays have been part of normal society for thousands of years. The only person outside of normal society here is you.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    When "social conservatives" actually start caring about strong families again.
    Makes absolutely no sense there, Rodney. We never stopped caring so how could we start again? You must live in bizarro world. And you actually get internet there?
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    gays have been part of normal society for thousands of years. The only person outside of normal society here is you.
    2.5% doesn't seem to be normal.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    uh huh...you are the guy that was saying nothing was gonna change and then the Boy Scouts collapsed before our very eyes and are now probably going to fade into the past, all that good camaraderie, good deeds and skills taught lost to the future due to the war created by what amounts to a gay mafia on anybody who stands on principle and gets in their way. Its why I am no longer tolerant, you folks aren't, so I take my cue from ya'll...no shame either.

    Ciao.
    Boy scouts will not collapse, just backward people who believe that the world revolves around sex will be ran off. Good riddance the program doesn't need you any longer. What you teach was of no value.

    Your delusions of a "gay mafia" border on insanity. This has gone so far with you that you need to invent a conspiracy to explain it.

    Tolerance isn't enough. And you are only tolerant because you can't do anything about it.

    The war is all on you, of you simply grow up there would be no need for this war. Your principals don't have to change, just your meddling in the affairs of others.

    But I personally think your sanity is slipping away. Pretending there is a war about my sexuality, inventing the gay mafia? Thinking you have the ability to be intolerant of your fellow citizens. You sound like a future domestic terrorist to me.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    "Normality" is irrelevant. The individual is what truly counts, not the herd.

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