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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Guys, if your life's structure is so fragile that two dudes legally being able to leave each other property will destroy it, you have a serious chicken little complex.
    Dude, nobody ever stopped anybody from legally being able to leave each other property. It is called a will. So we have to change all society so that those who seem not to know about wills can leave property to one another? Sheesh.....I say if they cannot negotiate life as it is, too bad.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Its a silly question, why address what he actually says when he is only looking for a certain response and a certain type of respondent...?? I am not in either of those categories, so I am telling you what the reality of that means if that were to ever happen, whether you wanna hear it or not....

    We straight on all that Boo...uh, sorry, probably not the best way to ask that on this thread....ha ha ha haha
    If you think it's a silly question, you can do many things, including ignoring it. But when you misrepresent what it said, that makes you look foolish and not him. Besides, what you said is hardly reality.

    Are we clear on that?

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Heh - this make me wonder if it would matter when it comes to 'lesbians' as that's already more socially acceptable to many people.
    Conservative men don't have a problem with lesbians. They jerk off to that **** just like every other straight man does. The ones that say they don't are bull****ting themselves. It's the male homos they seem to have trouble with. Two men? Putting things in each other? Icky.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Dude, nobody ever stopped anybody from legally being able to leave each other property. It is called a will.
    Actually, that is untrue. Property comes in more forms than a house you know. A gay person who's partner has died in an accident can't make a wrongful death claim. They can't draw the SS of that partner either. They also do not automatically inherit their partner's property. All things which straight couples do not need to write into a will in order for it to take effect.

    So we have to change all society so that those who seem not to know about wills can leave property to one another? Sheesh.....I say if they cannot negotiate life as it is, too bad.
    No. We really don't. We just have to recognize their unions as equal to ours. You're going to have to come up with a lot of information in order to support the claim that recognizing a marriage will change the entire bureaucratic structure and a even more to make the claim that it will change society. How did biracial marriages change society? They didn't. How did inter-religious marriages change society? They didn't. "Gay marriage" won't change it either. It'll simply be one more recognized type of marriage.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If you think it's a silly question, you can do many things, including ignoring it. But when you misrepresent what it said, that makes you look foolish and not him. Besides, what you said is hardly reality.

    Are we clear on that?
    My view is certainly not his reality nor, apparently, yours... you want change, the type of change history informs is not a good direction for humanity. This is a free country still, I am allowed and will speak my mind on such matters as I see fit and " you can do many things, including ignoring it."

    I did not misrepresent what he said, I interpreted to what I see it to mean, and what I think will be the future if what he wants comes about. Sorry, but too bad if you do not like it.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Dude, nobody ever stopped anybody from legally being able to leave each other property. It is called a will. So we have to change all society so that those who seem not to know about wills can leave property to one another? Sheesh.....I say if they cannot negotiate life as it is, too bad.
    Changing all of society would mean requiring all married couple to have wills, should they want to leave their possesions to their spouse.
    What is being proposed is not changing all of society, it is allowing more couples to be apart of society. I do appreciate your empathetic outllook though. I can only assume you are not Christian.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    When are the Libbos going to stop trying to force their beliefs on everyone else? Why not just shutup about it and let people come around on their own; the end result of that might be much more to your liking.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Guys, if your life's structure is so fragile that two dudes legally being able to leave each other property will destroy it, you have a serious chicken little complex.
    You don't have to married to do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When are the Libbos going to stop trying to force their beliefs on everyone else? Why not just shutup about it and let people come around on their own; the end result of that might be much more to your liking.
    The premise of the OP was patronizing (although probably not inaccurate), but there was no call for force.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't have to married to do that.
    I already explained why they do have to be married. Straight couples that are married are expected to leave each other property so no will is required. Gay couples do not have the same protections if a partner suddenly dies.
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