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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I have no idea what you are even saying with that first statement. Seems nonsensical to me.

    The addition does not change a thing of what I said, that is my interpretation of what is really meant there, not his interpretation of coming events, but mine... and he has his own idea of what will happen. So?
    You don't understand one not equaling the other? It's explained in the second sentence. No longer believing the wrong headed false literal reading of the bible is not anything like not giving a damn. The two are not equal. And one doesn't answer the other.

    And as I pointed out, your wrong about what he really meant.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I see that social conservatives in this thread are deliberately misrepresenting my position, which is: that it would be more profitable, both politically and pro grammatically, for social conservatives to emphasize a monogamous relationship structure for straights and gays alike, and to fight promiscuity by both, than to continue trying to exclude one from the family social form.
    That is utter hogwash... you try to disguise with language just what your bottom line is, you want what you want, no matter what conservatives want. Why would we give up our ideals [ that would make us you and your side, and we do not want to be you and your side ] to suit you? So it certainly DOES NOT suit us politically...and if it does not match our ideals, its a no go. Besides which, the numbers are insignificant. I think when you are committing what is considered a sin with someone else who is committing the same sin, probably not that big a deal if you are monogamous or not. Think the church considers adulterers that are monogamous adulterers together to be less of adulterous sinners?
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You don't understand one not equaling the other? It's explained in the second sentence. No longer believing the wrong headed false literal reading of the bible is not anything like not giving a damn. The two are not equal. And one doesn't answer the other.

    And as I pointed out, your wrong about what he really meant.
    But what you don t seem to get is I was right about what my interpretation is... but whatever... this has gone on long enough without result, so you believe what you believe, I will do the same. Have a good one.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    But what you don t seem to get is I was right about what my interpretation is... but whatever... this has gone on long enough without result, so you believe what you believe, I will do the same. Have a good one.
    I always do.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    It's interesting how many on the right suddenly adopt a form of moral Darwinism when it comes to this issue.

    We're not simple animals, we don't live merely to breed and further our genes. To give any substantial purpose to it is to demean what humanity has come to mean.
    He never said we live merely to breed...how are you coming up with these sudden leaps as to what people are meaning? Like you did in mine, where you think I defend all that came before as, you put it, sacrosanct.

    Getting crotchety in your old age are ya?
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Which only comes into play in protecting them from discrimination. The majority, by definition, does not need that protection. That's like saying a person with a broken leg has something the rest of us don't because they have a wheelchair. Everyone else can just walk.
    Sure we do, right now we need protection from the minority that is trying to run things. Not how its meant to go.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Sure we do, right now we need protection from the minority that is trying to run things. Not how its meant to go.
    Run things? Now that's a leap. If John and bill want to marry, how is letting them running things? Isn't it Christians who want to run their loves?

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Run things? Now that's a leap. If John and bill want to marry, how is letting them running things? Isn't it Christians who want to run their loves?
    Because we the normal ones have tried over and over again to tell them that we do not want them to be able to marry, we do not think its right nor good...you are aware that 31 states have constitutional bans of same sex unions, right? That is a majority. Sorry folks, we don't want what ya ll are selling.
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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Because we the normal ones have tried over and over again to tell them that we do not want them to be able to marry, we do not think its right nor good...you are aware that 31 states have constitutional bans of same sex unions, right? That is a majority. Sorry folks, we don't want what ya ll are selling.
    Exactly. You running their lives, something think is quite ok to do. So, running someone's life is perfectly acceptable to you. If it ever happens to you, don't whine.

    However, normal is a useless term.

    And, it matters not one bit if you have successfully legalized bigotry in 31 states. That's been done before, and over turned before. So don't get too comfortable.

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    Re: When will social conservatives reorient to focus on integrating gays into familie

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When are the Libbos going to stop trying to force their beliefs on everyone else? Why not just shutup about it and let people come around on their own; the end result of that might be much more to your liking.
    It has been my experience in life, no matter the issue, the louder the shouting over an issue the harder to bring about change.

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