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    Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    Come on liberals. Ya'll need to get behind this in a big way.

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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    I wish there was another option honestly. I think we should bail out the people of Detroit, the people who are going to lose the pensions that they deserve, but after that I am much more reserved. While I am reserved, I fear that without government assistance, everybody is going to suffer in Detroit, and suffering people are never good. But the problem if we decide to bail them totally out, that sets the precedent that its ok to go bankrupt, the WH will cover the bill. So in my opinion any action on Detroit needs to be very precautions.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    We should not bail out any failing city.Especially if they do not have a plan to cut their costs.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Come on liberals. Ya'll need to get behind this in a big way.
    No. I only support bailouts for large corporations, not hard working people.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    No. I only support bailouts for large corporations, not hard working people.
    While I understand the point you're trying to make, it falls kind of flat when you consider how many hard working people at those large corporations would have lost their jobs had they gone under.

    As to the point in the OP, I'm kind of torn. On the one hand, I don't think it's right that people may lose their pensions. On the other, I think it's more likely the people running detroit will learn a lesson from going through bankruptcy.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    I think those who's pensions are in jeopardy should somehow be taken care of. I don't think Detroit as a city is worth saving. I can't think of any industry where it makes sense to make Detroit its global headquarters where it wouldn't make more sense to have it somewhere else. The auto industry would be more efficiently run out of a city with an international seaport in my opinion.

    It would have been best to do this in advance, but create a national pool of all city workers pensions then if one city has issues, the retirees are safe. It might be good to go ahead and extend the national pooling to other benefits too like health insurance group, etc.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    I support sending them a bucket. They will have the tool required. Whether they use it or not is entirely up to them.

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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    No. I only support bailouts for large corporations, not hard working people.
    I was born in Detroit...

    Thank god my parents had the good sense to move out while it was still in its heyday. That being said, while one can see your sarcasm as it drips in globs down on your tie, I do not believe in bailing anybody, or any entity, out when they self inflict by not making the hard decisions you need to be making along the way in order to arrive at that better ending. Detroit is just a canary in the cave regarding the unsustainable. We can also look across the pond at Europe. If we continue making bad decisions, keep spending money we do not have on things government has no business... well, I do not think there will be anybody bailing us out when we misstep on that precipice... and we will have deserved it knowing what we do now... with such vivid examples right before our very eyes.
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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    Having been to Detroit many times, I've always said, let Windsor annex her...

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    Re: Poll: Do You Favor Bailing Out Detroit?

    There should not be any "bailout" option. The city government created this mess and if the citizens want to save their city it is up to them it do it themselves.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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