View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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Thread: Do you support school uniforms?

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    I have both not worn/worn school uniforms and my kids both wore/didn’t wear uniforms. Of course, I hated wearing a uniform for a bit; I was all about styles…and boys…and dressing competitively—in other words, an ordinary teenage girl. Which is how I ended up attending a private school and wearing a uniform. Once I settled in, I thought uniforms were great because I never had to think again for school about what I was going to wear. More money for cool clothes for my social life outside of school too. (My mean parents didn’t give me an allowance, and so I always had a part-time job.)

    As a mom, uniforms were absolutely fantastic. No morning drama, at least not over clothes. And my kids’ uniforms were good-looking, affordable by anybody, and recycled through the school too, especially the stuff with the school emblem. Khakis or navy chinos and white, navy, or red shirts.

    Uniforms solve a lot of problems. I think they improving the learning environment, which is, after all, the main point of schooling...learning.

    Here’s an article on an economics prof’s study of the impact of uniforms on student behavior and learning, including improved retention rates: University of Houston News: UH Study Suggests School Uniforms Reduce Student Absences, Disciplinary Problems

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    From my perspective I'd say no. In most cases uniforms are butt-ugly, but my main opposition to it is basically taking away a medium of individual expression which can spark debates and discussion.
    Part of the current school discipline problem is all of that individual expression. The use of uniforms places more emphasis on discipline, aids in security and keeps parents from wasting money making their kids look "cool". With poor and rich kids dressed alike, there is less social stigma from being from a lower income household.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I've been in that situation. People look scummy; it's embarrassing.
    Well I've found people were a lot more chilled out, a lot less disruptive etc. and actually learnt a lot more. Furthermore the teachers got to spend less time being anal about the uniforms and more time actually teaching.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I think they're a great idea for most schools.

    They boost integration and respect and I also think they should be free of charge for the parents initially. Each student should have 3 (random number > 1) school uniforms given by the school at the sizes of the student and if the parents want additional school uniforms, they should pay for them.

    So what do you think?
    Heya RM. I am all for them. Violence in our schools dropped some with the Kids going to Uniforms. Plus it stops them from wearing clothes associated to Gangs. Moreover it helps parents in the longrun too. Saves them on the kids clothes they buy from getting messed up with wearing whatever to school.

    I also think their Coats for Winter Weather should be used.

    Course I went sent to a Military School. So I was more use to having a Uniform. Albeit Military style.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Positives about uniforms:
    1. Kids don't have to wear the high price brand names to be accepted.
    2. No gang clothes.
    3. No playing games with how short the shorts or skirts can be.
    4. They're cheaper in the long run than buying school clothes.
    5. They look better than most of the outfits kids put together for themselves.

    Kids should be required to wear a school uniform. Parents should buy them, just as they buy (or should buy) school clothes for their kids anyway.

    Further, there should be no attendance boundaries. Uniforms should be a part of the requirements that students have to meet to attend the school of their parent's choice, right along with keeping their grades up and staying out of trouble.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Part of the current school discipline problem is all of that individual expression. The use of uniforms places more emphasis on discipline, aids in security and keeps parents from wasting money making their kids look "cool". With poor and rich kids dressed alike, there is less social stigma from being from a lower income household.
    Can't agree, it's my opinion that school discipline is only marginally if at all related to what t-shirt a kid wants to wear.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Well I've found people were a lot more chilled out, a lot less disruptive etc. and actually learnt a lot more. Furthermore the teachers got to spend less time being anal about the uniforms and more time actually teaching.
    Ever heard of confirmation bias?

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Ever heard of confirmation bias?
    I don't recall having particularly strong views on this at the time

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Dude, you have posed ZERO ****ing arguments. You have made zero points, and expressed zero opinions. You have not taken a side. You have done nothing. If you'd like to make an actual ****ing point. I'll be here.

    Stop acting like a ****ing child.


    You're joking right? Look, I know you didn't like the fact I pointed out how your math was completely wrong. I know you don't like the fact you were wrong about me not talking about the benefits/reasons for them. But this post of yours is utterly ridiculous, not to mention hilarious for you accusing me of acting like a child after you just threw a fit because I constantly corrected your provably false claims.

    The fact is children have PLENTY of time to dress the way they want. You were wrong about that. I did post about the benefits of the stricter dress code. You were wrong about that as well. Both of those were "actual ****ing point"s. Just do the honest thing and admit you were wrong. I also said (in the same post I later quoted) it has gone very well for us, which is a pretty clear indication how I feel about it. So you have now been proven wrong three times. Simply admit you were wrong and quit engaging in these transparent tactics of trying to change the conversation after you've been clearly proven wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    We need to create individuals. People who are creative and free thinkers.
    That's the entire point of education. But restricting what they can wear doesn't harm the ability to educate them to be creative and free thinkers. That's such a nonsensical statement.

    Forcing these kids even further into the automoton production line and squashing another element of their creativity isn't really helping anything.
    How are you squashing creativity by standardizing a dress code? That makes no sense.

    Creativity is wrought from the mind, not mass produced designer clothing. I have no idea what you are talking about here.

    I think this proves my point. You believe all kids should be exactly the same, and the teacher should shape their individuality. Jesus, that's a scary concept.
    No, the scary concept is the fact you seem unable to do simple math, read another person's post...and then start yelling when you are corrected. You talk about allowing for creativity and yet you shout down people who point out the provably false statements you make. In other words, you want everyone to do just like you say and not question anything you say. That's the exact opposite of creativity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Look at a school with a uniform on non-uniform day and you have the best argument against uniforms.
    It really is amazing some of the things parents will let their children wear.

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I have both not worn/worn school uniforms and my kids both wore/didn’t wear uniforms. Of course, I hated wearing a uniform for a bit; I was all about styles…and boys…and dressing competitively—in other words, an ordinary teenage girl. Which is how I ended up attending a private school and wearing a uniform. Once I settled in, I thought uniforms were great because I never had to think again for school about what I was going to wear. More money for cool clothes for my social life outside of school too. (My mean parents didn’t give me an allowance, and so I always had a part-time job.)

    As a mom, uniforms were absolutely fantastic. No morning drama, at least not over clothes. And my kids’ uniforms were good-looking, affordable by anybody, and recycled through the school too, especially the stuff with the school emblem. Khakis or navy chinos and white, navy, or red shirts.

    Uniforms solve a lot of problems. I think they improving the learning environment, which is, after all, the main point of schooling...learning.
    Well said.
    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Can't agree, it's my opinion that school discipline is only marginally if at all related to what t-shirt a kid wants to wear.
    We have experienced a noticeable drop in discipline since instituting our dress code (as had other schools we consulted before we changed our policy). Sure there can be other factors which may tie into that, but it's a pretty sharp downturn.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    I don't have a strong opinion either way. It's just clothes. I would proffer everyone worry more about the literacy rate of graduates.

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