View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, it's not. At most, roughly 8 hours of your day, for 180 days a year is spent inside a classroom. That's 1/3rd of your day for roughly half the year. That's not even close to being "most of your life".

    I've given you those reasons.

    Then feel free to let them dress however you want for the other 180 days a year they are not in school and for the other 2/3rds of a day when they do have school.
    You've posted to me twice. In neither situation have you given any reason whatsoever why they should have to wear uniforms. Either you're a liar or a mistaken.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Well it was cultural issue. It was in an area where many Scottish immigrants were.
    Then that makes more sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You've posted to me twice.
    Both times proving you wrong.

    In neither situation have you given any reason whatsoever why they should have to wear uniforms.
    Nor was I intending to. I was pointing out the falsehoods in your statement. Kids are welcome to wear whatever they want for most of their life. As far as giving the reason for a stricter dress code, I did that in the very first post of mine in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Since we implemented that dress code (which was met with strong resistance, but only AFTER it passed...that's what you get in a small town, a bunch of morons), the quality of education has gone up. Test scores have risen slightly and discipline has been down each year. Obviously it's a very short time frame to measure, but it seems to be having a positive effect on our school. The students are not prohibited from expressing themselves through clothing, they just have more limited options. And many parents, even those initially opposed, have said it's been good for them, as it brings the cost of buying clothing for their children down.

    It's gone very well for us.
    Either you're a liar or a mistaken.
    I'm neither, I'm simply someone who possesses the ability to read and do math. If only there were more like me.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    In my youth I didn't, but as I became a parent and then grandparent I see the value in school uniforms. Puts all the kids, regardless of family financial status, on the same footing. Especially in the high school years.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Then that makes more sense.
    Both times proving you wrong.

    Nor was I intending to. I was pointing out the falsehoods in your statement. Kids are welcome to wear whatever they want for most of their life. As far as giving the reason for a stricter dress code, I did that in the very first post of mine in this thread.



    I'm neither, I'm simply someone who possesses the ability to read and do math. If only there were more like me.
    Dude, you have posed ZERO ****ing arguments. You have made zero points, and expressed zero opinions. You have not taken a side. You have done nothing. If you'd like to make an actual ****ing point. I'll be here.

    Stop acting like a ****ing child.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    I support school uniforms, and although I would normally think parents should pay for them, since it would be required clothing, I support the school paying for at least a few sets of clothes. My reasoning behind school uniforms, is that it takes the focus off of students being obsessed with how they look, and how they dress, and helps redirect it toward scholastics and education. It cuts down some of the shallowness of students trying to out-do each other wrt looks and style.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I support school uniforms, and although I would normally think parents should pay for them, since it would be required clothing, I support the school paying for at least a few sets of clothes. My reasoning behind school uniforms, is that it takes the focus off of students being obsessed with how they look, and how they dress, and helps redirect it toward scholastics and education. It cuts down some of the shallowness of students trying to out-do each other wrt looks and style.
    The issue is, we're already having a major problem in education that kids aren't able to think independently and creatively. Pushing all of them even further into a cookie-cutter mold and refusing to let them express themselves isn't going to help that.

    Our education system doesn't need more cookie cutter, it needs far, far less.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    When I was a student - I never attended a school with uniforms. None of my schools had significant issues from dress and appearance problems, so I don't see what it would have changed.

    As a parent of four students - for a time we were in a uniformed school district. It was a pain, actually. Some areas might be more considerate than others - but buying uniforms is far more costly because schools made it very complicated.

    My kids had this:
    No polyester. Boys wore a belt. Tops had to be dark blue, red, or yellow proper shirts (no t-shirts or tank tops but things like polos and button-ups). Shoes had to be only from a select few styles.

    1) Not all places sold school-appropriate articles of clothing. Where they did - it was often marked much higher. I can find t-shirts for a few bucks but when it comes to uniforms, everything was between $5.00 - $12.00 a top and pants were higher.

    2) Limited materials - by disallowing polyesters and knits they limited the available selection which forced me to buy more expensive articles if the cheaper one was the wrong material.

    3) Shoes - dress shoes were more expensive. Aside that, kids spend time running around in the dirt and rain while at school, dress shoes are just thoughtless and inappropriate. They are ruined more quickly and much more expensive to replace.

    4) Belts - my oldest was in K-2, special needs, and always needed help with his belt. It was entirely ridiculous for them to require it. They complained to me often, though they're the ones who decided that the button-shirt line had to fall in line with the pants and be topped off with a belt. The only thing missing was a tie

    5) Heat - we live in Arkansas. A few months of every school year it's too hot for pants and sleeved tops (upper 90's and 100's with high humidity), yet they required them - kids were more uncomfortable.

    6) Color choices and children - light colors like yellow, light blue, khaki and beige are horrible choices for school clothing. Kids go to school where they use paint, glue, and drink chocolate milk. I had a lot of clothing go to the trash because they quickly became stained and the stains would not come out - especially the paint.

    We were dirt poor - and hunting down uniformed articles was a pain in the butt. It's inconsiderate to put people in that type of situation and it solved nothing. I ended up finding long sleeve shirts and clothes that were too big at good-will and then taking them in so they'd fit. Dressing kids should not be so difficult to tedious.

    All in all - it cost us hundreds more every single year, created faux problems like the teachers complaining my special needs son needed too much help (tying shoes and lacing his belt), and on top of that - you still have to cloth the child in regular clothes like t-shirts and shorts so they can go out side and play.

    It also increased laundry time by almost doubling the dirty clothes you had to wash each month.

    All in all - it was a pointless pain in my butt and thus - I oppose them strongly. Most people are not well off nor do they have time to keep after it all.

    Sometimes crap happened - like one week (we lived in an apartment) and the laundromat dryer system stopped working - we didn't have clean clothes for school, they wore regular clothes - and I was given a hard time for it.
    Thanks for that perspective. I'm ok with reasonable dress codes - no mid-driffs showing, pants can't be hanging below the butt type of thing. But uniforms? Naw, can't be for them. We didn't have them when I was in school, and I can't remember ever being so distracted by someone's clothes or someone's hair that I couldn't learn. Who cares what people wear?

    Ok, there was the girl who was rumored to never wear the same clothes twice...new outfit every day of the year... but that was probably just a rumor.... I certainly never paid enough attention to say if it was true or false.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The issue is, we're already having a major problem in education that kids aren't able to think independently and creatively. Pushing all of them even further into a cookie-cutter mold and refusing to let them express themselves isn't going to help that.

    Our education system doesn't need more cookie cutter, it needs far, far less.
    I disagree, especially again at the junior and high school level. How they dress is NOT a matter of creativity, but more a case of conformity and competition in action. There are so many ways to express and engender creativity through learning and academic pursuits. Creativity is a tough one in high school as the kids largely don't want to stand out in any way unless it's popular in their crowd. And that's not standing out but fitting in.

    Btw, where there is no standard uniform I am against dress codes. It's an either/or situation in my book.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I disagree, especially again at the junior and high school level. How they dress is NOT a matter of creativity, but more a case of conformity and competition in action. There are so many ways to express and engender creativity through learning and academic pursuits. Creativity is a tough one in high school as the kids largely don't want to stand out in any way unless it's popular in their crowd. And that's not standing out but fitting in.
    Well would you agree that our education system is far too cookie cutter? Our entire system is based around doing a ****ty teaching job in class, assigning them homework reading which they won't do, then asking them to regurgitate then purge all of the information they memorized.

    This is simply another way of making them just another brick in the wall. Our society doesn't benefit from conformity, it benefits from creativity and radical thinkers.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I think they're a great idea for most schools.

    They boost integration and respect and I also think they should be free of charge for the parents initially. Each student should have 3 (random number > 1) school uniforms given by the school at the sizes of the student and if the parents want additional school uniforms, they should pay for them.

    So what do you think?
    Depends on thier locations and whats going on in the school. For places like the St. Louis or Detroit? Most definitely. For places like Bonners Ferry ID, no need what so ever.
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