View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    My only school age child goes to private school and he has a dress code. I have been subject to certain dress codes most of my life in one way or the other. It is not that big of a thing. I don't care one way or the other, but that you seem to think people who do not agree with you are "useful idiots" could be reflective of your putting too much emphasis on your clothing as being an expression of who you are. I really don't care if my clothes come from Walmart or Vineyard Vines and it is unlikely that I would be impressed by yours or anybody else's.
    Since there are already schools that have uniforms and dress codes, I think somebody needs to go out and start protesting about this horrible travesty of justice!

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Since there are already schools that have uniforms and dress codes, I think somebody needs to go out and start protesting about this horrible travesty of justice!
    Some of our public schools have more enhanced dress codes than others. There is always a middle-ground between chain wallets and t-shirts and coat and tie. I see both sides of the issue, and I still don't really care one way or the other. Uniforms are not a magic academic or discipline bullet. My concern is not that people will be oppressed by not being able to wear A&F plastered all over them, but that some kids' parents may not take it upon themselves to buy or take care of the uniforms since they do not properly take care of the kids to begin with so those kids could have a lot of discipline problems and even be suspended for doing nothing wrong.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    My only school age child goes to private school and he has a dress code. I have been subject to certain dress codes most of my life in one way or the other. It is not that big of a thing. I don't care one way or the other, but that you seem to think people who do not agree with you are "useful idiots" could be reflective of your putting too much emphasis on your clothing as being an expression of who you are. I really don't care if my clothes come from Walmart or Vineyard Vines and it is unlikely that I would be impressed by yours or anybody else's.
    Thank you for your dime store psychological summary of who I am. You don't have any children in the public schools for you made an individual choice not to. At the moment the majority of the people in their public school districts control whether there is mandatory uniforms by popular vote. But the discussion was suggesting what if a Federal mandate came down forcing all to comply? You obviously don't have a problem with something like that cause it is no skin off your nose. Many do. People who are freedom-minded consider that any law should not infringe on another's rights whether they affect them personally or not. But those who do not revere freedom for all will become the useful idiots that allow the freedoms of others to be squelched. Nuff said.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Thank you for your dime store psychological summary of who I am. You don't have any children in the public schools. At the moment the majority of the people in their school districts control whether there is mandatory uniforms by popular vote. But the discussion was suggesting what if a Federal mandate came down forcing all to comply? You obviously don't have a problem with something like that cause it is no skin off your nose. Many do. People who are freedom-minded consider that any law should not infringe on another's rights whether they affect them personally or not. But those who do not revere freedom for all will become the useful idiots that allow the freedoms of others to be squelched. Nuff said.
    The reason I have no kids in public school is because I want them to learn something, a problem from which you do not suffer. Perhaps they will learn the difference between "useful idiot" and "useless idiot" in the process.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Some of our public schools have more enhanced dress codes than others. There is always a middle-ground between chain wallets and t-shirts and coat and tie. I see both sides of the issue, and I still don't really care one way or the other. Uniforms are not a magic academic or discipline bullet. My concern is not that people will be oppressed by not being able to wear A&F plastered all over them, but that some kids' parents may not take it upon themselves to buy or take care of the uniforms since they do not properly take care of the kids to begin with so those kids could have a lot of discipline problems and even be suspended for doing nothing wrong.
    The one legitimate concern I've heard raised so far was by Rogue about some parents possibly not being able to afford the uniforms, which makes sense.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You seem to think that what the kid wears dictates an inability to be an individual. That is what matters about diversity... not the superficial clothes on their back. You don't understand personality or psychology on the most fucndamental level apparently. Like I said, you are probably a kid. That is fine. Just doesn't give you enough experience to make a informed choice... and why adults make the rules too.

    I think it's just setting the kids up for the real world. When you have a job, there's often a dress code (or a uniform).


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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The reason I have no kids in public school is because I want them to learn something, a problem from which you do not suffer. Perhaps they will learn the difference between "useful idiot" and "useless idiot" in the process.
    I deserve that.
    If I had school age children still at home, my choice would be a private school also for a number of reasons.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The one legitimate concern I've heard raised so far was by Rogue about some parents possibly not being able to afford the uniforms, which makes sense.
    There is generally no reason to worry about the expense. Most school uniforms are standard pants, shirts, and skirts that can be purchased at Walmart or JC Penney. And in my experience with private school uniforms, the items of clothing with school patches are "handed down" at the beginning of the school year. Parents meet up in the cafeteria or someplace and go through stacks of outgrown shirts and sweaters. My kids were "scholarship students," but I had no problem at all affording their uniforms. (I just think that white shirts for little kids are a big, big mistake!)

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There is generally no reason to worry about the expense. Most school uniforms are standard pants, shirts, and skirts that can be purchased at Walmart or JC Penney. And in my experience with private school uniforms, the items of clothing with school patches are "handed down" at the beginning of the school year. Parents meet up in the cafeteria or someplace and go through stacks of outgrown shirts and sweaters. My kids were "scholarship students," but I had no problem at all affording their uniforms. (I just think that white shirts for little kids are a big, big mistake!)
    I was trying to find her post to quote it for you, but I can't find it. Anyway, she made some really good points in her post about how some really poor families use hand-me-downs, or they might buy their clothes from a salvation army type of place.

    I think that if the family does have legitimate financial issues, then that could be taken care of by offering those particular families discounted prices on uniforms through the school or something. Kind of like they do with lunches.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    I'm sure that such offers are made and very discreetly too. But again, you can find ordinary boys' and girls' khakis and so on at Goodwill and at garage sales too.

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